Posted 10/8/2004 2:00 PM (#4952 - in reply to #4944) Subject: RE: Seatbelts for a Harley Ultra Sidecar
Location: Boise, Idaho
DOT approved universal seatbelts are available for cheap at most any Auto supply house. There are several different lengths (and colors) to choose from and they come with instructions so that you can mount the brackets at the rear body mount locations.
Posted 10/8/2004 2:13 PM (#4953 - in reply to #4952) Subject: RE: Seatbelts for a Harley Ultra Sidecar
Thanks for the reply. Are we talking the standard everyday part store for the consumser or large supply houses used by the dealers?
Posted 10/27/2004 5:50 PM (#5133 - in reply to #4944) Subject: RE: Seatbelts for a Harley Ultra Sidecar
I'm in the process of putting seatbelts in my Ural sidecar. I'm using the center back seat seatbelt as it doesn't use the shoulder type of belt. If any part is not long enought cut one of the shoulder belt to lenghten. I'm sure you can go to a shoe repair shop to have it sewn. Contact me for any questions. I paid $6.00 for a used belt from a junk yard.
Posted 10/28/2004 1:16 PM (#5136 - in reply to #4953) Subject: RE: Seatbelts for a Harley Ultra Sidecar
Location: Boise, Idaho
The two point belts are available from almost any discount auto supply store complete with all the fittings and in several lengths. They are inexpensive enough that I would recommend buying new ones.
Nylon does deteriorate and weaken with age and exposure to the elements.
On sidecars with a support point for a three point shoulder belt, a newer late model compact automobile belt should work OK.
Posted 10/30/2004 11:09 PM (#5153 - in reply to #5133) Subject: RE: Seatbelts for a Harley Ultra Sidecar
On the Ural web site there is a current posting of a couple that were on a Ural rig when they crashed into the rear end of a car in front of them. The passenger in the sidecar was pitched out and died, and the driver, her husband, is now in critical condition.
There has been a long standing debate at that site and others with people who think they are useless and that a passenger runs a higher risk of the sidecar flipping over and crashing down onto the passenger's (monkey's) head if they were strapped in with a seat belt. I have always thought that there is little to no actual scientific testing by the industry to prove or disprove anything either way. However, this particular accident was not by an unskilled driver. So far, the statistics or accunts of actual wrecks that I have seen support the need for a seatbelt over the risk of not using one for the monkey. I don't have a rig yet, but when I get one I will adapt a seatbelt very hastily. The dynamics of the open sidecar rig seem to support it acts like a slingshot once the vehicle is tilted forward at a high rate of speed. I know this will not sway anyone who disagrees with the logic, but it is enough to make up my mind.
Posted 11/10/2004 4:42 PM (#5286 - in reply to #5153) Subject: RE: Sidecar Mounting on a Lowered HD
I put the seat belt in my hack to please my wife. When we were in Richmond for Club Hog this year she came off the seat a couple of times, the roads are terrible. The seat belt is to provide both of us with a little extra peace of mind. I don't know how much real good it would do in an accident.