KLR Sidecar set up
fredtman
Posted 4/13/2016 11:23 PM (#88676)
Subject: KLR Sidecar set up



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I recently purchased a 2013 KLR with a cargo sidecar. This rig was built and set up by the P. O. who had no sidecar experience and very little sidecar knowledge. However, it is built very well and tracks surprising well. It has only two attachment points and no adjustment possible at either. I plan to ride this rig from Chicago to Alaska in 2017 so I want to get it set up much better. Do any of you know of a knowledgable sidecar person in the Chicago area that would be willing to look at my rig, give me some advice, and maybe even assist in making the changes that I need?



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trikebldr
Posted 4/14/2016 11:48 AM (#88678 - in reply to #88676)
Subject: RE: KLR Sidecar set up



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Wow, that's just a scary looking mounting system from several viewpoints. looks like only three bolts holding the whole car to the bike. I'm sure Lonnie and Jay will chime in here and offer their suggestions!
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Hack'n
Posted 4/14/2016 12:45 PM (#88680 - in reply to #88676)
Subject: Re: KLR Sidecar set up



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No way this setup is viable for a safe trip.
Jay makes KLR mount sets and can probably give the owner or re-installer of his choice technical advise for proper mounting of the cargo car.
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jaydmc
Posted 4/14/2016 1:31 PM (#88681 - in reply to #88676)
Subject: Re: KLR Sidecar set up


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Yes, we do make mounts for the KLR, I also own and ride a KLR with one of our Sputnik sidecars. We build a leading link front end and offer a stiffer spring for the rear of the bike. We are in the Seattle area, many people stop by on their way to Alaska. I have attached a photo of my current KLR, I have owned many as people keep buying them from me.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com



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fredtman
Posted 4/14/2016 2:51 PM (#88682 - in reply to #88681)
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jaydmc - 4/14/2016 12:31 PM

Yes, we do make mounts for the KLR, I also own and ride a KLR with one of our Sputnik sidecars. We build a leading link front end and offer a stiffer spring for the rear of the bike. We are in the Seattle area, many people stop by on their way to Alaska. I have attached a photo of my current KLR, I have owned many as people keep buying them from me.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com


Jay - Nice looking rig. Could you please send me some pictures and pricing for your KLR mounts and rear spring? Please send to fthoffman@yahoo.com
Also feel free to call or text me at 636-795-9232. Anyone else wishing to contact me about my KLR rig, please feel free to use this same email and cell number, if not this forum.
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jaydmc
Posted 4/14/2016 3:07 PM (#88683 - in reply to #88676)
Subject: Re: KLR Sidecar set up


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I took a look at your photo's, while your rig may be working for now, I would not trust it long term, nor would I trust it off pavement at all. There are so many design issues with this mounting system that I do not even know where to start. I also noted the speaker wire, I trust that is for speakers and not for lighting.
I have attached instructions showing our mounts. You will note that the upper front mount does not attach to the down tube on the KLR, the reason is that the KLR frame is known to fail if you attach a mount to the down tube. Also I saw no provision for a brake. Your KLR has limited traction with its front tire, with the sidecar loaded down hill on a loose surface the sidecar is trying to push the front of the bike to the left. With out a sidecar brake to help over come this you may have to chose to use what limited traction you have to either steer or slow down but not both.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com



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jaydmc
Posted 4/14/2016 3:26 PM (#88684 - in reply to #88676)
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Attached are some photo's of a KLR cargo sidecar we custom built for some one from Australia to carry surf boards and documentary film equipment on a trip the length of the America's. If any one see's it, it was stolen some where in Mexico.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com



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fredtman
Posted 4/14/2016 3:50 PM (#88685 - in reply to #88683)
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jaydmc - 4/14/2016 2:07 PM

I took a look at your photo's, while your rig may be working for now, I would not trust it long term, nor would I trust it off pavement at all. There are so many design issues with this mounting system that I do not even know where to start. I also noted the speaker wire, I trust that is for speakers and not for lighting.
I have attached instructions showing our mounts. You will note that the upper front mount does not attach to the down tube on the KLR, the reason is that the KLR frame is known to fail if you attach a mount to the down tube. Also I saw no provision for a brake. Your KLR has limited traction with its front tire, with the sidecar loaded down hill on a loose surface the sidecar is trying to push the front of the bike to the left. With out a sidecar brake to help over come this you may have to chose to use what limited traction you have to either steer or slow down but not both.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com


Jay - Yes, I know this is an "IFFY" rig and that 's why I want to do it right. When I first looked at the bike before buying it and saw how the guy had attached the car I thought there is no way this is going to go down the road straight. But, it did and up to 55 MPH with just a little pull to the right. So, I thought maybe the guy did know a little something and at least this would be a good starting point. And, sad to say, the speaker wire is for the lighting. Another P.O. adaptation. I have not ridden this bike or done anything to it since purchasing it last month. From my pictures, what do you think I would need to do to use your mount kit on my car? I can send you some more pictures if that would help. I'm also interested in your heavy duty rear spring. I'm thinking if I'm going to be pulling a loaded car I should also probably upgrade the front springs. What do you recommend for that?
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fredtman
Posted 4/14/2016 3:56 PM (#88686 - in reply to #88684)
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jaydmc - 4/14/2016 2:26 PM

Attached are some photo's of a KLR cargo sidecar we custom built for some one from Australia to carry surf boards and documentary film equipment on a trip the length of the America's. If any one see's it, it was stolen some where in Mexico.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
866-638-1793
www.dmcsidecars.com


Very, Very Nice!....and looks very, very heavy too.
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jaydmc
Posted 4/14/2016 4:31 PM (#88687 - in reply to #88676)
Subject: Re: KLR Sidecar set up


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I really would need to see how the hardware on the sidecar was done. I suspect we would have you weld pinch tube clamps for the lower mounts, add eye bolts for upper mounts. You can get some idea of what this is all about at this link http://www.dmcsidecars.com/the-result-of-improper-sidecar-mounting-... Also on our face book page is a video of us doing an Indian, it will give you some idea of how sidecars are normally mounted https://www.facebook.com/dmcsidecars
Jay G
DMC sidecars
www.dmcsidecars.com
866-638-1793
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