Darkside 15" car tire
akathetroll
Posted 2/12/2008 2:33 PM (#33139)
Subject: Darkside 15" car tire


First, I would like to ONLY hear from people who have successfully mounted 15” auto tires to unmodified 15” MC rims. Second, if you have thoughts against mounting 15” auto tires to a 15” MC rim, please start another thread.

I’ve mounted a 145R15 http://tinyurl.com/yrarmd and a 155R15 http://tinyurl.com/29mlh4 to the rear wheel of my Virago which has a 3” wide rim. One took 80 lbs to seat the bead and the other took 50 lbs. A friend mounted a 145R15 http://tinyurl.com/2ad5vu to a Virago that took 100 psi to seat. I tried to mount a 165R15 and couldn’t get the bead to seat.

I WOULDN”T attempt to mount the tires myself. I took them to a professional who has the proper safety equipment and knowledge. One needs to do the research and decide for their selves. I’ve read comments of tires blowing up during mounting but have not found one person with personal experience. Also, have read comments of tire failure after mounting but, again, have not found one person with personal experience.

The benefit of a car tire was better handling and a smother ride.
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Concho
Posted 2/12/2008 4:13 PM (#33141 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire


Originally written by akathetroll on 2/12/2008 11:33 AM
First, I would like to ONLY hear from people who have successfully mounted 15” auto tires to unmodified 15” MC rims.


Approximately one week ago I had a Nexen brand 165/80R15, professionally
installed by the "WheelWorks" in Garden Grove, CA, on my Honda VTX1300s.
The 1300s has spoke wheels and so, a tube installed. The WheelWorks has
been around for many years and is a highly reputable company doing only
wheel work, tires, re-spoking, etc. The 1300s spoked wheel is 4" wide and
presented no problem with mounting the car tire. These folks didn't supply
the tire, only did the mounting and had NO qualms about doing it, despite
years of motorcycle tire and wheel experience.

For further "Darkside" experiences, there is a group devoted to the
subject located at: http://vtxdarksiders.forumotion.com/index.htm
and the Goldwing board at: GL1800RIDERS.COM - http://tinyurl.com/35wvwk

Good luck with yours.

http://home.earthlink.net/~concho-vtx1300/

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crawf
Posted 2/12/2008 7:00 PM (#33148 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 344
Location: smithville ontario canada
hey troll,..I have an 02 marauder with a BFGoodrich 155/60/15 mounted on an un modified factory mag wheel , a local tire shop mounted it after I removed the bearing from the hub. it took no effort to mount or bead, and I couldn't be happier, 10,000kms later and the tire still looks new ($69.95). my bike came with a 150 tire, so 155 was very close,..if I went wider or narrower I may have had an issue, good luck crawf.
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Ivan Rider
Posted 3/2/2008 11:32 PM (#33553 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 23
Location: Bodega Bay, California
Originally written by akathetroll on 2/12/2008 2:33 PM

First, I would like to ONLY hear from people who have successfully mounted 15” auto tires to unmodified 15” MC rims. Second, if you have thoughts against mounting 15” auto tires to a 15” MC rim, please start another thread.

I ran a 165R15 car tire on the back of my BMW R1200C/Ural rig for 30,000 miles. I replace it with a 195R15 to get more ground clearance. They outlasted the ME880's 3 to 1 and I had no problems with them.
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Phelonius
Posted 7/14/2008 9:21 PM (#37161 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 725
Location: N.lat 20- 13' -58" W.lon 155 - 48' - 31"
Suzuki S-40 2007 model with modified Velorex hack.
Stock spoked rim 15"
stock MC tire is 145X15
It now wears a Michelin 135X15 automotive tire designed for use on old style beetle VWs
It took several trys, and lots of lube and 80 psi to get it to bead properly. Thern deflate to proper tire pressure. I use about 38 psi.
I get, better handling, better braking, better gas milage, tiny bit more top end speed.
Original cycle tire was worn to cords around the middle at less than 3,000 miles. Michelin should get better than 20,000 miles.
It has been well worth the effort and price.
BTW, front tire is an Avon 19 inch sidecar tire with flat profile and NO tread on the sidewalls. The sidewalls on the Avon are noticably stiffer than other bike tires. My Avon now has 16,000 miles on it with more to go.
The hack still wears it's original tire that came with it.

Phelonius
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crawf
Posted 7/15/2008 4:14 PM (#37178 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 344
Location: smithville ontario canada
if you were wearing a tire to the chords in 3000 miles, your alignment or toe must be too severe, my scooter rubber lasted 10 000 to get to the wear bars,at 20 000 or so with car rubber now, double check your set-up for good measure, cheers, crawf.
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SideCar
Posted 9/4/2008 10:56 PM (#38552 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 146
Location: Colleyville, TX
Haven't used 15", but my Valkyrie takes a 16" car tire on the rear. I've been running one for about 5 years, 2 years without the sidecar and 3 years with it. On 2 wheels, there was a bit of a handling tradeoff, but with the sidecar on, the car tire is nothing short of excellent. Great traction. Much better in the wet. Better ride, especially on absorbing expansion joints and other rough surfaces. I don't know of a downside on a rig.
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Phelonius
Posted 2/13/2009 6:12 PM (#41866 - in reply to #37178)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 725
Location: N.lat 20- 13' -58" W.lon 155 - 48' - 31"
Alignment is and was correct. This is my ninth sidecar rig. I have made 4 of them from scratch.
The original tire was a soft rubber compound and designed for two wheel usage. I now hav 20 thousand on the automotive tire with more to go.
I have been sidecaring since 1968. I do know how to set alignment and leanout.

Phelonius
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crawf
Posted 2/13/2009 6:48 PM (#41867 - in reply to #33139)
Subject: RE: Darkside 15" car tire



Posts: 344
Location: smithville ontario canada
just a question friend,...no offense intended, I thought you were asking for a reason why your tires wore out too soon, cheers crawf,
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