Posted 4/14/2004 3:29 PM (#3110) Subject: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
i have bought a (what i am told )spirit of america eagle sidecar --it looks like a california companion, may be .anyway i need brackets to mount it to a 1973 harley flh . i have all four arms but no clamps that attach to frame can anyone steer my the right direction or does anyone have some to sell or any information on this unit ------------thanks
Posted 4/14/2004 4:01 PM (#3111 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
Check with Jay at:
He may want you to post a Pic.
Posted 4/14/2004 5:58 PM (#3112 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
We will need to figure out for sure what kind of sidecar you have as I have identified up to 5 different companies that have built this sidecar all with different chassis.
There are many different ways to identfy it. One easy way is by suspension.
If it has a torsion bar suspention with out a shock then it is most likley a California companion which had the best mounts of all the different companies that built this. Other wise a photo would help.
Let me know what I can do.
Dauntless Motors Corporation
Posted 4/14/2004 8:49 PM (#3117 - in reply to #3112) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
HOW DO I EMAIL A PICTURE TO YOU I TOOK SOME TODAY
Posted 4/14/2004 11:16 PM (#3120 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
You can email me at www.dauntlessmotors.com
Posted 4/14/2004 11:43 PM (#3121 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
You do not want the eagle mounts they are just thin u shaped straps. I made some for my bike. Try looking on this site Dauntles, motorvation,some of the independent shops can help you. If it is an eagle or easy rider side car it is a little light for a HD. Raise the seat and check for a model tag under it on the body floor.Even if you had the stock clamps you don't want to use them. I can scan a copy of the instuction manual and send it or you can go to the SCT site and download it. I am in the process of putting one one a bike now. Not nowhere near the weight of a HD and I wouldn't use the stock mounts. If you think I can help you out send me an email. I have the stock straps but you really don't want them.
Posted 4/15/2004 9:20 AM (#3124 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
I agree on not using the Spirit mounts. For these we weld two cross tubes under the chassis and convert them over to 1 1/2 boss and clamp set ups like the newer ones made by California used. Once this is done it will work with all of our mounts as well as Champion, California and Texas sidecars mounts.
Dauntless Motors Corporation
Posted 4/15/2004 4:47 PM (#3126 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
Location: Boise, Idaho
Unless you are just going to use it just for slow backroad putting, I would also be concerned about the lightweight suspension of this sidecar when matched with the heavy FLH. Whichever frame clamps you choose.
I have Velorex U-clamp with eye bolt assemblies for $49.09 each plus shipping, but I would recommend at least beefing up the suspension if you are going to use this hack.
Posted 4/16/2004 7:54 AM (#3131 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
Location: Indianapolis, IN
I run a Spirit of America on a GL500 and it's too light, suspension wise, for even that. I wouldn't put one on an FLH. Spirits, in all their incarnations, are just not beefy enough for a big-twin HD.
Besides safety and comfort, weight and suspension considerations the chair is just way too small for that size bike and will look kinda goofy.
And the original clamps are just pieces of mild steel bent around the bikes frame tubes. I tried them when I first mounted mine and promptly tore one in half (breaking my windshield in the process) Jay will steer you right if you're going ahead with this project.
FWIW, JMHO, all standard disclaimers apply, void where prohibited, your mileage may vary, see store for details.
Posted 4/16/2004 8:27 AM (#3132 - in reply to #3131) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
you forgot about the little pieces that go in between the straps that locks them to the frame(not). Just makes the straps break faster but hold alignment better till they do! Don't get me wrong I really like this sidecar (not the mounts) but I am putting on a light weight bike. I have seen the on HD Sportsters. I would not even w/structeral changes and suspention mods. By then cost wise you could buy a better matched sidecar. This is just my opinion take it or leave it. I am new to this myself but do know basic physics,and some about structeral load as applied to frames car and motorcycle. I have heard people using stock mounts also, heard of the breaking and slipping out of alignment both, are not very good things downright dangerous. When in doubt build it stout. Rings true to me for road going machines.
Posted 4/18/2004 6:59 PM (#3152 - in reply to #3110) Subject: RE: spirit of america eagle /need mounts
i would like to thank everyone for theyre input on the question i asked after all the input on size and weight i have decided to sell the spirit sidecar and look for something heavier i will just have to save up my nickles, dimes and quarters. anyone interested in the spirit contact me it is in good condition email me at firstname.lastname@example.org live in northern ca.