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Posted 11/1/2004 8:59 PM (#5180)
Subject: Help in identifying manufacturer and model


Hi there, we are very new to the sidecar community. We bought this sidecar used, and are curious as to what make/model it is.

I posted a couple of photos of it here.

http://www.coynerfamily.com/interest.htm

Any clues?

Dee
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SidecarMike
Posted 11/1/2004 9:54 PM (#5182 - in reply to #5180)
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It's a HitchHiker, first built in Minnesota then later in Ohio. They closed up shop in the early 90's. A nice sidecar for a smaller bike. I had one on a 1200cc Goldwing, but it was really too light for the bike. I used to have a copy of the install instructions on here, but I think they've been deleted. Send me an email address and I'll forward a copy to you. Keep in mind that it's a big file and will take a while to download if you use a dial up account. Sidecarmike@charter.net
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Fly
Posted 11/1/2004 10:26 PM (#5184 - in reply to #5180)
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good sidecar. i have a 90 [air shock] on a 850 suzi and a 93 [torsion bar] on a xs11 yamaha. welcome to the wonderful world of sidecars.
fly
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claude #3563
Posted 11/2/2004 1:14 PM (#5189 - in reply to #5184)
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Dee.
Yes , welcome aboard. Be warned though as sidecars can be very addictive
Sidecar looks to be in good shape in your pictures. What do you plan to mount it on?
The instructions, I think the ones Mike referred to, are posted
at SCT in the files section. Clicking on the link below is the first step to get there. Once on the homepage you will have to get a Yahoo name and password (no biggie) and then join the ISOK(No biggie either and free). Then click on 'files' at the left of the screen etc.
Fly, I was just going to ask if you had read this as you are THE Hitchiker guy amongst us. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCT/

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Posted 11/2/2004 2:30 PM (#5192 - in reply to #5180)
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claude.... how come i have to be THE hitchhiker guy? why do i always get the blame? ok i've got broad shoulders.
wickedfun... sidecars are fun but can be wicked. down load or order hal kendall's sidecar books availible on this site. download the ural book "driving the ural sidecar motorcycle" same as the "yellow book" cluade do you know the website for this? get the hitchhiker mounting instructions from sct. from the pics it looks as if your hitchhiker is 1990 or older. it should have an air shock and leading swingarm. is the top mount for the shock welded to the fender mount or is it an adjustible clamp? accomplish these tasks then we will decide what to do after lunch. get hack'd magazine and if you haven't join the usca. fly
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claude #3563
Posted 11/2/2004 2:55 PM (#5194 - in reply to #5192)
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But..But.. Fly, you are the hitchhiker guru in my mind. Please don't bust the bubble of my image of you. I think you are just being modest
Oh, If someone wants the Yellow Book (almost identical to the material on the Ural site if it is still there), It is stil advertised at the Dauntless motors site.
Claude
duckin and runnin again .. lol


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Posted 11/2/2004 5:07 PM (#5196 - in reply to #5182)
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Thank you sir, for the wicked fast id!! I spent hours poring over google sidecar images, and never even came close!

I found the install instructions on the Yahoo site (hitchhiker.gif?), and just downloaded them from there.

We are planning to put the sidecar on a 1985 Harley FLTH Tour King 1380cc right now.

Dee
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sidecarLenny
Posted 11/2/2004 6:20 PM (#5198 - in reply to #5180)
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Mike if this sidecar is too light for a goldwing wouldn't that hold true for that size Harley?

lenny
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Posted 11/2/2004 7:27 PM (#5200 - in reply to #5184)
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Thanks for the welcome fly. I hope it will be an enjoyable pastime.

Dee
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Fly
Posted 11/2/2004 7:33 PM (#5201 - in reply to #5180)
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the hitchhiker should work well on your harley. when paul williams owned hitchhiker in london ,oh. he mounted several on harleys.
fly
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Posted 11/2/2004 7:33 PM (#5202 - in reply to #5189)
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Hi Claude! Thanks for the welcome. I joined the Yahoo group and downloaded the hitchhiker instruction sheet as instructed.

As I mentioned in the thread above, we are mounting it on our '85 Harley Tour King for me to putt around town on with either one or both of the kids in tow.

Hubby rides a BMW K1200 LT, and I am in the market for a newer travel bike since I sold my 1100 V-Star in August...sigh...long story, but I could never get comfortable on the thing...so until I find my next full time bike, this is my part time solution. I bought the sidecar last year, just to help a friend out of a financial jam more than anything, and we just let it sit...now, time seems right to do something with it.

Ramble ramble, I do tend to chatter...my apologies in advance if you nod off while reading. :-P

Dee
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Posted 11/2/2004 7:46 PM (#5203 - in reply to #5192)
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ok...ok....jotting notes...ural sidecar book...aka..yellow book, also look for Hal Kendal stuff...got it. Mounting instructions also check...however, Hubby says the lower mounting brackets on our "hitchhiker" seem to be a bit "beefier" than those pictured??

Now then...top mount is welded to the fender mount, but the bracket where the shock actually attaches is an adjustable slidey type thing, with about 2" of adjustment maybe?

Ok, just finished dinner...where to now?

Dee
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SidecarMike
Posted 11/2/2004 7:55 PM (#5204 - in reply to #5198)
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I would not put it on anything bigger than maybe a Sportster. Even pulling a camper and with my son in the sidecar I had a real problem keeping it on the ground and I am not an aggresive rider. When I spoke to Mr. Williams about this he told me the 1200cc Goldwing was way too big a bike for it. He recommended not mounting it on anything that would, without a sidecar mounted, have a gross weight of bike, rider, and luggage exceeding about 600 pounds.
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Posted 11/2/2004 8:11 PM (#5205 - in reply to #5204)
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Well rats. Double rats even.

:-(

Dee
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Fly
Posted 11/2/2004 8:31 PM (#5206 - in reply to #5180)
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dazed and confused. not sure about mount is welded but where mounts slides. late 80's had metal strap welded diagonally from rear vertical to top horizontal with a stud to mount the shock. earlier models had a sliding mount on the vertical. paul had a hitchhiker on his personal harley. he mounted mine on my suzi in 90. my inlaws and outlaws live in london,oh so i used to hide out at his shop quite a bit. i have specs if you need them.
fly
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claude #3563
Posted 11/2/2004 9:08 PM (#5207 - in reply to #5206)
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Fly,
Were there different Hitchhiker models? Down at the Hack'd Reunion the two machines up near the top of the driveway were Hitchhikers. Sorry I do not remember names ...but...anyhow,the sidecar frames were different on each of them. Also the one was on a Goldwing and I think he said it was his wife's ride(man, I wish I could remember his name..rats!!)..anyhow..I questioned him on the stability of it and he said to get on the left footpeg and check it out..Gotta say that thing was stable. I could barely lift the sidecar wheel. Don't know if it was full of ballast or not though.
Claude
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Posted 11/2/2004 10:54 PM (#5211 - in reply to #5207)
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There was a wider two passenger model. Mine was the single seat version.
I need to also say that the HitchHiker was my first non-Harley Davidson sidecar. I was accustomed to things much heavier and more stable, and my current Valkyrie/Dnepr is also much heavier that the HitchHiker.
Just the same, when passing a car, I would have to concentrate on keeping the wheel down as I moved back to the right. That's why I sold it and went back to a heavier car. I do remember,though, that I really liked the air shock on the sidecar. The Minnesota roads I drove to work were really high crowned and it was quite easy to adjust the pull to the right or left by simply altering the pressure with a bicycle hand pump.
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Fly
Posted 11/3/2004 9:43 AM (#5215 - in reply to #5180)
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sidecar mike ...that air shock is a wonderful thing. better ride than the 93 with torsion bar. winter project is to switch rigs. 90 air to xs11, 93 torsion to gs 850. of course if was easy everybody would do it. have other updates to do to the 11. some body said" it is not the destination, but the journey"
fly..who is also proud to be a skunk #ooowon
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Posted 11/3/2004 10:58 AM (#5218 - in reply to #5180)
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claude...that was gary and courtney from mich. i meet them at bean blossom . at hack'd he told me they had just picked up another gw/hitchhiker rig. we had them parked next to each other to compare. i was explaining the mods paul made to the 90 because of my wife's ailments. hitchhiker mde a single seater , a doublewide and a classic style. paul was a very concerned sidecarist. too bad circumstances were what they were.
fly
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Posted 11/4/2004 7:46 AM (#5225 - in reply to #5180)
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The Hitchhiker.gif instructions at SCT were put there by me. I took Mike's big file and was able to create something more manageable. I had a hitchhiker for a short time. It was mounted to a GL1000. Never drove it though. The bike wasn't ready for the road. I kept the bike and sold the car.

KEvin
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claude #3563
Posted 11/4/2004 8:22 AM (#5226 - in reply to #5225)
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Kevin,
Thanks for posting the Hitchiker mounting instructions at SCT. They are quite interesting and I like the look of them. Too bad these sidecars are no longer made. Anyone have any idea what ever happened to the fiberglass molds??
Thanks again Kevin,
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Posted 11/4/2004 8:27 AM (#5227 - in reply to #5180)
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a guy in kentucky bought them and never did anything with them. i believe he pasted away and this son has them now. iam checking on that now.
fly
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Posted 11/4/2004 8:30 AM (#5228 - in reply to #5226)
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Originally written by claude #3563 on 11/4/2004 8:22 AM
Anyone have any idea what ever happened to the fiberglass molds??


I bought them last year. They are hiding in my garage. Can't you see them in there?



Kevin
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Posted 11/5/2004 9:29 AM (#5237 - in reply to #5180)
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Well now I am just thoroughly confused. IS the dratted thing too light for the Harley or is it not???

I am picking up a "new to me" '96 BMW R1100RT tomorrow to become my primary ride, but it would still be fun to have the sidecar if it would be safe to mount it on the old hog.

Dee
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Posted 11/5/2004 11:11 AM (#5238 - in reply to #5180)
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thomas edison said "if you think you can do something or you think you can't do something you are probably right". i have seen many harleys with hitchhikers. my opinion and $3 will get you a beer almost any place you go. good luck which ever way you decide.
fly
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