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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/7/2004 5:37 PM (#5260)
Subject: A Newby...


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Hello Everyone!
I am new to sidecars. All of my life I have been fasinated by sidecar rigs. Everytime I mentioned my fasination to friends or family, they looked at each other as if I had flipped out. One friend even suggested that I enroll into a Virinia Sidecar Safety Course at a local Community College so I could see how much I would NOT enjoy driving such a setup. I enrolled and to everyone's dismay....now I REALLY am hooked. I was actually in a room full of people with the same passion that I have always felt for rigs! I will forever remember the first time that I was able to "fly the chair".
One of my insructors recommeneded this website to the class. My friends and family (including my wife)still think that I have flipped. It is so nice to have a place to come to any time of the day and to be in the company of people with the same passion for sidecar rigs as myself. I am in the process of searching for a sidecar for my bike and hope to make a purchase by the end of the year. In the coming days, I am sure that I will call upon all of you for advice and/or support because there is no substitution for experience. To keep a long story from getting any longer...Hello everyone, it is great to finally be here!

Thanks so much!
Jerry
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Fly
Posted 11/7/2004 7:21 PM (#5261 - in reply to #5260)
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jerry... welcome.you are off to a good start. look around ask questions. you are among friends.
fly
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herwing
Posted 11/8/2004 4:29 AM (#5262 - in reply to #5260)
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Hi Jerry - - Welcome!

I don't know where in southwest VA you're located, but I thought that you might not be too far from my location. I know lots of cycle riders in this area, but I'm the only sidehacker that I know of; I'm not saying that there aren't any, I just don't know any. Probably not much riding weather left this year, but if you have a rig by the spring "thaw" I thought I'd extend an invitation to join us on a ride sometime. I live about an hours ride north of Roanoke.

Connie
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/10/2004 6:38 PM (#5289 - in reply to #5260)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


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Thanks fly and thanks Connie. I appreciate the invite Connie. I am loctaed a couple or three hours S SW of Roanoke in Carroll County VA. I have been riding up your way and it is a beautiful part of the state. We live just a couple of miles off of the Blue Ridge Parkway. If you ever get an opportunity to ride down our way let me know as well! Are there any sidecar rallys in or around Virginia Connie? Thanks again guys and gals!
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Posted 11/10/2004 8:49 PM (#5292 - in reply to #5260)
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Welcome!
For finding an affordable sidecar, check the 'want ads' section. Also recommend ebay. Just watch out for the 'forged money order' scam thats going around right now.
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herwing
Posted 11/11/2004 3:27 AM (#5294 - in reply to #5289)
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Hi Jerry,
I can see the Parkway from my house. I love to ride it. I've ridden a lot places, but it is still my absolute favorite. Any time that we head south, I try to make the Parkway part of the trip. Of course, I don't expect to be doing that again any time soon, but we usually head down to Pigeon Forge in April. Maybe by then you'll have a rig.
Sorry, I don't know of any sidecar rallies in VA. The only thing sidecar related that I know of is the Califoria Sidecar open house in October. We usually try to make it over there for that. Actually, I used to think that I was the only Virginian crazy enough to jockey around a sidecar. I know why I do it, but I've never quite figured out why anyone else does. I have a love, hate relationship with my rig and it didn't start with the love part!
Another good place to look for things motorcycle related (i.e. sidecars & rigs) is the Goldwing Road Riders Association (GWRRA) website. They often have them for sale. When I found mine, I wasn't looking for one; it was sitting on the floor at a Honda dealership and I made the mistake of asking my husband to buy it for me. Eight years and many miles later, I still have my sidecar! But you don't usually find them at any of the motorcycle dealerships that I know of; most dealers seem to shy away from them. Good luck finding the perfect one for you!

Connie
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Posted 11/12/2004 1:09 PM (#5310 - in reply to #5260)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


Hi Jerry, and Welcome to the addiction of driving a sidecar rig. We got ours in September this year and have logged about 3500 miles on it so far. The only thing I have regrets about is that I didn't do it years ago. I live in VA also (Powhatan County) and we do most of our riding west of here in the mountains where we came from. Maybe we can all meet up sometime for some riding. Good luck in getting your rig and don't hesitate to ask questions here (and give advice as well). Great bunch of people who believes in helping one another.
Roger
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/13/2004 5:16 AM (#5313 - in reply to #5260)
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Thanks for the info about the California sidecar gathering in October Connie. We will try to make it there in October as well. Thanks to Roger for the riding invite and words of encouragement! You are right Roger, I have met some of the nicest people on sidecar related websites. Wow Roger...3500 miles since September. Now that demonstrates pure enjoyment! Thanks again.....Gerald
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hdrghack
Posted 11/13/2004 8:03 AM (#5314 - in reply to #5260)
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Jerry,If you go to the home page look across the top to the link that says "the map" click on that this takes you to a map click on the state that you would like info. from this gives a list of sidecar dealers and installers also if there is a USCA State Rep. they should be able to help you with locating a hacker or two as they say Welcome to the madness.
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SidehackRalf
Posted 11/13/2004 7:08 PM (#5318 - in reply to #5260)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


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Hi Jerry,
I too am a newby to this list and a re-instated sidecar operator.
Back in 1959 I got my first one, a 1951 FL Harley. I paid $650 for
bike and sidecar. The bike had 1,700 miles on it. And I thought
what am I gonna do with this sidecar? Well, I had a ball with it after
almost running into a light pole and other things the first half a
block or so. I sold the Harley and kept the car. Then when I came out
of the Army in 1963 I found a 1949 74 Harley which became the new
tug. The trail bike fad bit me and I got "stupid" and sold the bike
and sidecar. After the kids got raised and such, I got into road
bikes again and was always thinking in the back of my mind about
sidecars. This fall in September I was brousing on the GWRRA message
board and a Champion Escort was for sale. One thing led to another
and I bought it. Only trouble it was 2100 miles away in Ohio. I had
no luck trying to get it crated and shipped so I drove my S-10 Chevy
over and picked it up. To make a long story short, It was fitted to
a 1988 GL1500 Honda and I have a 1989 so the mounts went on the same
and with the help of Champion sending me mounting instructions, it is
on. I went over to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho last weekend and gave both my
grandsons a ride in it. They are 2 and 4 years old. They really enjoyed
that but I enjoyed it more. My wife is really impressed with how nice
it is to ride in there with the temperatures under 40 degrees. It has
the TILT and I'm getting braver about changing that at speed. Basically
it sits right there at 60 miles an hour so much so that I can let go
of the handlebars for a while. It also has the steering damper setup.
Well I've rattled on enough. Hope you find the right one. I am enjoying
this forum very much.

Ralf
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/16/2004 1:30 AM (#5358 - in reply to #5260)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


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Thanks "Red the Unready" in Alabama for the info on locating an affordable sidecar. Thanks for the warning about the ebay moneyorder scam too! Thanks for the USCA navigation advice Chuck "hdrghack". I have some very, very good friends located out towards Buffalo in NY State. Some of the most beautiful countryside I have had the privilage to ride through! And some of the nicest people that I have had an opportunity to be associated with! I hope to visit up your way again in 2005. Ralf, thanks so much for your words of encouragement and sharing a little about your experience with your rig. Sounds like you are really enjoying it! Sounds like your grandsons are enjoying it as well! I hope to be out there hacking it with the best of you guys and gals soon!
Thanks again!.....Jerry
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Posted 11/18/2004 10:31 AM (#5378 - in reply to #5358)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


Hi Jerry,
Thought of your search for a sidecar when I saw this. I don't know what you ride, but here is a link to a very nice Ultra sidecar on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=...

The current bid is a great buy, but there are 5 days left on the auction and the car is located in Massachussetts.

Good hunting!
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/19/2004 5:11 PM (#5385 - in reply to #5260)
Subject: RE: A Newby...


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Roger,
Thanks for the tip about the sidecar for sale on ebay. I currently ride a 2003 Harley-Davidson Electra-glide. I purchased the bike new a few years ago with the idea that someday I might just want a sidecar on it. If I had known then what I know now...I would have purchased it with a sidecar attached. Live and learn I guess. If anyone knows of a "good deal" on a sidecar that will fit my bike please feel free to point me in that direction. Thanks again for the tip Roger!

Jerry
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hdrghack
Posted 11/20/2004 6:59 AM (#5387 - in reply to #5358)
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Jerry,I am south of Buffalo where around Buffalo do you go?What type sidecar do you prefer,the e-bay car is a good deal looks like a real clean car for any body that may want a HD car.I have a cal 3 on my Road Glide
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/20/2004 10:12 PM (#5393 - in reply to #5260)
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Chuck,
I visit up north of Buffalo, probably closer to Niagara Falls in a suburb of Lockport. Do you recommend the Cal 3? I have recently been leaning toward a Harley-Davidson or a Cal Companion GT sidcar, however I am thinking that my young daughter will perfer the security and comfort of a California Friendship model. I would love to recieve some feedback from members pros and/or cons about sidecars that will fit my Electra. I would prefer that anyone offering negative feedback about a particular chair please send it to me privately instead of in the forum. I would hate to offend anyone's choice of sidecars.
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Joyce
Posted 11/21/2004 4:48 AM (#5394 - in reply to #5260)
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Hi JerryI think you are very accurate in your assumptions. I spent a lot of miles in a Friendship model and loved it. The enclosed feeling would make for a better choice for your daughter. The Companion GT model, which I currently have, has a lot more wind and less room to move around in. For a youngster taking stuff is important and having the wheel away from hands and arms is a big plus for the Friendship models.
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hdrghack
Posted 11/21/2004 12:14 PM (#5398 - in reply to #5393)
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Jerry, I have friends and family in the Falls and outside of lockport in Clarence Center. The two cars you spoke about are fine I have both the only thing to consider is the HD car is a rigid suspension the leaf springs are for the passengers comfort you feel more of the pot holes etc. thru the rigid axel on the HD car but I still like them . The cal 3 has a shock suspension for the car which is good for all conserned on the rig. The top is nice to keep on for the hot sunny days you can remove the side windows and open the vent in the floor of the cal. 3 and get a pretty good breeze moving thru the car to boost the flow of air I made a Stainless steel air scoop and attached it to the underside of the vent and turned it in to a "ram air system" something else to consider with the removable roof is just because the Parents aren't smart enough to get out of the rain doesn't mean the kids should suffer When it all comes down to it it all depends on what you like and do with it we do a fair amount of traveling with the Road Glide and Cal.3 its a couple hundred miles shy of 40,000. now there are other sidecars that have a cover to the Hannigan's and Motorvation also has one. I have seen pictures of a HD car that had a cover made for them its a matter of fabricating a tube frame for a cover to lay over and using snaps to fasten it on. If you haven't yet go to the home page and look at the manufactures that I spoke about and look at their web sites maybe some Hannigan and Motorvation owners will offer some input to. If it mounts to a bike and has one wheel I like it.
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sidecar_fletch
Posted 11/21/2004 3:54 PM (#5403 - in reply to #5260)
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Thanks so much Joyce and Chuck for your input and insight about the various rigs that you are farmilar with. There is no substitution for good old fashion experience. You both brought out some points that I have not yet considered before purchasing my sidecar. I really appreciate the valuable info and also your service to the USCA. Oh yea..Chuck I hope you won't mind if I use the last sentence from your previous post (#5398). I think you should consider adding the phrase to the quotes section if you haven't already...lol. Thanks again!
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herwing
Posted 11/22/2004 5:06 AM (#5412 - in reply to #5393)
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Hi Jerry,

This is "not" a critism of Harleys (I don't want anyone getting all bent because they think it is), it's just something that I picked up from a conversation with a Harley sidehacker in FL. We were both in a gas station at the same time and were comparing rigs. He had a couple of kids in the car and I asked him if he had ridden the bike down to Daytona like I had ridden mine. He said no way because the bike wasn't powerful enough to do interstate speeds with the sidecar. So, just a thought - - a Friendship III is a pretty big sidecar, if you only have one child, why not consider a Friendship II instead. Or at least, make sure that your bike can easily handle as large a sidecar as the Friendship III?

Connie
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sticksfgt
Posted 11/22/2004 2:40 PM (#5416 - in reply to #5260)
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I have a GL1500 with a Hannigan Astro 2+2 sidecar. Me, my wife and my 5-year old love it! We can now all go ride together. I was most impressed with Hannigan because they were very kind people with which to work and I feel like their product was of excellent quality.

The 2+2 is a heavy sidecar and took some getting used to, but I really enjoy enjoy riding it now. I wish I would have gotten the sidecar years ago.
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hdrghack
Posted 11/22/2004 6:08 PM (#5417 - in reply to #5412)
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Connie and Jerry...The Harley rig in FLA. If it was an older rig such as a early 70's on down I could understand it fully as my 72 fl/HD car is a slug With myself the wife and daughter along with camping gear to keep it at 62-65 was a job on the interstate. Constant downshifting was needed to keep it from lugging the motor when traveling at low speeds in town etc.The 03 E-Glide could handle the cal.3 my 01 Road Glide has EFI with a stock motor and can handle my cal.3 and yes at times downshifting is needed when your speed drops shifting is required now the cal.2 that Connie has on her wing is a fine choice also I never intended to sound as it wouldn't be but what I would suggest is that if you choose the cal.2 or something in that weight range is when you donot have a passenger to haul a little "ballast" weight. I use to use a 5 gallon soft sided water container with the HD car when I first started riding with a sidecar when I didn't need the weight I would dump the water out. There is one downside to the Cal.3 with my 14 year old daughter she seems to think she can bring more "stuff" on trips. Again Jerry you need to decide what will work for you and your family,there are all kinds of sidecars out there single seater's to the Watsonian's that can haul 4. If you click on the link below my signature it wil take you to my site on the home page is a picture of the 72FL and hack and in the photo section look for Chuck's and there is a photo of the Road Glide/Cal.3 Happy hunting...........
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Posted 11/22/2004 6:48 PM (#5418 - in reply to #5260)
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I don't have any trouble with my '03 ultra with the stock EFI engine and stage I kit. Of course I'm only tugging a Harley sidecar which isn't as large and heavy as some of the other nicer ones. We can cruise easily at 70-75 (and more if brave enough) here in the "flatlands" and only have to downshift in the mountains at times. The only problem my wife has encountered (and not a big problem) is getting in and out. But after a few times doing it, she finds it relatively easy now. One with a door or flip front might possibly have been better, but we decided to go with the HD car. But you're doing the right thing by listening to others. Then consider everything and go with what suits YOU the best.
Good luck.
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wayne41
Posted 11/22/2004 7:39 PM (#5419 - in reply to #5260)
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I have a 99 roadking with a cal.III with just carb and exhaust mods. have no trouble at 70 on the interstates. only problem is on hills if i dont get a run on them. wife and grandkids love the car. going to try and put different cams in this winter for more low end.a two into one exhaust also.
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Hack'n
Posted 11/23/2004 12:22 AM (#5421 - in reply to #5419)
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One way around the Harley "Horsepressure" problem that worked real well for me was the installation of a Turbocharger on my '95 RK with Spyder chair. The bike was very tractable at idle and at low speeds and as quiet as stock. It delivered between 115 and 120 horsepower in the high blow setting and was quite noisy at high RPM though.
One nice thing was when the other riders were shifting their twin cammers down all I did was twist the wick a little for more power.
It still delivered about 38 MPG highway mileage with the 80 inch motor and gave me no problems.
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herwing
Posted 11/24/2004 2:03 AM (#5422 - in reply to #5419)
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Okay, now I have a question. Since when do any of you "yanks" do 70 mph on the interstate????(well, you guys or anyone else for that matter)? Interstate speed in VA is 65, but it's 70 in most surrounding states. And if you're doing 70, you get your arse run over. No matter what you're riding, I hope it doesn't top out at 70 if you're gonna do interstates!

Connie
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