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Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts
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dmcland
Posted 4/16/2015 12:35 PM (#83944)
Subject: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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All,
I have built several sidecars and all of them have had suspension. Be it a coil over/shock and tower or airbag.

Background Info: I have seen many photos of sidecars with out suspension. The sidecar's wheel/axle is connected to the
sidecar frame. The body of the sidecar is on springs/rubber mounts/airbags.

My question is this. What does a sidecar suspension bring to the table?
Does it improve handling or stability?

Why is it needed? I have seen Harley's and others up through the years from 1900-2000 without suspension

thoughts and feedback welcome.

thank you

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davet
Posted 4/17/2015 6:58 AM (#83954 - in reply to #83944)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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I only have experience with my Harley sidecar. Any time you hit a bump with the sidecar wheel, there is input to the bike. The ride is especially affected on bad roads. Both handling and stability will be improved with a suspension. The only reason not to have a suspension would be if you have a Harley or an antique side car you want to keep original. If you're building something new, put some kind of suspension on the wheel.
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dmcland
Posted 4/17/2015 8:37 AM (#83955 - in reply to #83954)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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Thank you, my experience has only been with sidecars/hacks I have built. All with of them with suspension.
I have never ridden a bike/sidecar combo other than what I have built. So I have no frame of reference with a fixed sidecar suspension.

That said, I am attempting to replicate a 1929 Harley/Indian Sidecar and its suspension is/was fixed.
This will be mounted to a 07 1200 Sportster.

Since, I am in the design stage. I believe I will consider your advice.

thank you

DRM
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Hack'n
Posted 4/17/2015 10:03 AM (#83956 - in reply to #83944)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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As an example: The Liberty sidecar duplicates the Harley in appearance but rides like a dream with coil over shock suspension and sprung body. Whereas the rigid mounted chassis Harley car rides like a Stagecoach.
No feedback through the bars when you hit a rough spot with the Liberty car (and others with full suspension).

Lonnie
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dmcland
Posted 4/17/2015 11:38 AM (#83959 - in reply to #83956)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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Interesting, I wonder if I could use a leaf spring and shock as the suspension to give it the aged look? Northerntool has trailer spring shocks and shackles.

I would think the 500lb spring would work nicely

thoughts?

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Hack'n
Posted 4/17/2015 4:29 PM (#83968 - in reply to #83944)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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I've used the 250# torsional suspension on sidecars.
Remember, half of the sidecar weight is on the bike.

Lonnie
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dmcland
Posted 4/17/2015 4:31 PM (#83969 - in reply to #83968)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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Great, thank you,
I wish I had found this side before my first build,

But then again, I have enjoyed the process

DRM

PS. Complete the side templates and bottom templates,
Tomorrow I cut steel
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46u
Posted 4/19/2015 11:33 AM (#83978 - in reply to #83944)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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What I like about my Harley sidecar is no matter how much weight you put in it I never have to change the set up as it drives the same loaded as it does unloaded. I have had many ride in it and all said it road great even on rough dirt roads.
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dmcland
Posted 4/20/2015 10:36 AM (#84005 - in reply to #83978)
Subject: Re: Suspension or no suspension on the sidecar - thoughts



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That is the why one of my first builds I purchased an air shock kit for an older corvette. The bolt patter was the same and the distance of travel was around 12 inches. I was able to adjust the ride and or height by adding or releasing air.

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