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2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000
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mayrel47
Posted 12/27/2016 2:32 PM (#91849)
Subject: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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I recently put this rig together. It tracks well and handles like your typical sidecar. The bike has just under 12,000 miles, has been fully serviced with synthetic fluids, carbs rebuilt and new tires. The Ural sidecar is a 1970's something(no way to determine year), but it's rust free, no dents, new spare and running tires and tubes(balanced and mounted by dealership). Brake stop and tail light and white running light on fender(original). Everything works correctly. The bike is completely stock with the exception of the oil filter relocation kit(stock you had to remove the exhaust to change the filter), rider and passenger back rests and LED flashing stop light in addition to the stock tail light. The bike is maroon and the sidecar black with white pinstripes. The paint isn't perfect, but no rust or issues, never wrecked or dropped. I'm getting 30mpg running non-ethanol fuel at moderate speeds 55-60mph. The rig is in Navarre FL 32566; this is in the panhandle of northwest FL. I'm asking $6000 OBRO. You can contact me merrelljr47@gmail.com or 256-516-2135. Reason for selling is we're moving to Palatka FL. John
BASED ON A COMMENT ON THIS FORUM, THIS IS A URAL SIDECAR PRODUCED IN THE EARLY 1970'S. THE FRAME HAS BEEN MODIFIED WITH 2X2 SAQURE TUBING AND ADDITIONAL 1 1/2" CROSS TUBES IN ORDER TO PROPERLY MOUNT THIS SIDECAR TO MY BIKE. THE SIDECAR FRAME WAS EXTENDED APPROXIMATELY 11". THIS MODIFICATION ENSURES THE MOUNTING TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG.
RIG WILL BE LOCATED IN NAVARRE FL TILL 6MAR, AFTER THAT DATE IT WILL BE IN PALATKA FL

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Hack'n
Posted 12/28/2016 8:47 AM (#91856 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar



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Sidecar chassis is not A URAL.
Probably a Chang Jiang or other Chinese clone.

Lonnie
NWSC Ret'd.
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mayrel47
Posted 12/28/2016 9:00 AM (#91857 - in reply to #91856)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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I purchased this Ural sidecar from a BMW enthusiast. This sidecar was originally attached to a R60. You may be confused by the frame modification accomplished to properly attach the sidecar to the bike. I removed the socket style lower mounts in order to add the frame extension. The emblem on the sidecar is definitely from Ural. I really don't appreciate your making this comment without inspecting the sidecar. With that said, how can you tell this isn't a Ural sidecar?
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Al Olme
Posted 12/28/2016 1:15 PM (#91858 - in reply to #91857)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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John,

I don't know i it's a Ural or not. The body looks right but the frame was at least modified and the fender and running light/turn signal is not a current Ural part. Lonnie might have said that it "doesn't appear to be a Ural" instead of the flat out statement but that's up to him. I'm confident that the statement was made, as many others are here, to bring clarity and to protect the users here. Lonnie is a good guy and NOT malicious.

While I haven't seen all the Urals ever made, all the Urals I've seen use frames made of round tube. Your's appears to be at least partially square. The idea is, it's easy to make a mistake when there are obvious departures from the norm. Good luck with your sale.
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mayrel47
Posted 12/28/2016 4:59 PM (#91862 - in reply to #91858)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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Al, if he would have asked me I could have explained; the frame was modified with 2x2 tubing to correctly attach the sidecar to my bike. This sidecar(Ural)was attached to an R60 which has a much shorter wheel base/frame than my Vstar 1100. I'm sure no harm was intended, but you know the old saying...the road to heaven is paved with good intentions. I'm not sure why this guy felt he needed to make any comment at all; he's not interested in buying the rig, so what's his intention? I believe I mention the fact the frame was modified in my add. Again, this guy has left the idea that I'm trying to scam somebody with a fake Ural sidecar. This is another example of the problem with these type forums; everybody thinks they are experts and need to chime in with their learned experience and knowledge, never thinking about what they're saying or why, just blurt it out. I'm very disappointed in this fellow and his attempt to clarify for the group that my Ural sidecar could be a fake. How very kind and considerate of him to share this with the group. I don't suppose he'd like to explain himself to the group; like he needs to apologize for not thinking before making a statement that he can not either prove or support. I see he hasn't got the curtesy to respond to my comment back to him; like, I didn't mean to imply this guy is trying to sell a fake Ural sidecar to some unsuspecting potential buyer, let me clarify my comment. All I can say is I'm sorry I put my rig on this site for sale. I had no idea there would be something this unfounded and rudely said about my rig with no proof. I know it takes all kinds to make the world go around.
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Al Olme
Posted 12/28/2016 6:35 PM (#91863 - in reply to #91862)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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John,

Lonnie IS AN EXPERT, having run a sidecar business for many years. I'm pretty sure he was a Ural dealer. That said, even experts can be wrong.

The idea of a forum is a place for people to able to comment and many of the folks here have benefited from Lonnie's comments in the past. Your post telling him he's wrong, and why, is a good example of how things should and do work here. Saying he shouldn't comment is not in keeping with the spirit of the forum. Should Lonnie correct his statement? That's up to him just like your rebuttal was up to you.

It's too bad that you are sorry about putting your free ad on the best site on the Internet to sell a sidecar but if you really want to withdraw there is a delete button.
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mayrel47
Posted 12/28/2016 11:04 PM (#91864 - in reply to #91863)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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Al, I appreciate your response. I'm not going to let this get to me, although it did at first. He's free to comment, but I do hope he will at least have something positive to say after he reads my PM and forum comments. Fortunately I'm not in any hurry to sell my rig, it works fine and that was my original objective. With that said, if I do sell it, I'll look for a Ural as a replacement(one with fuel injection and disc brakes).
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Claus
Posted 12/29/2016 8:35 AM (#91868 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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I do Ural rigs in my shop now for more than 20 years and to me it looks pretty much like a Ural sidecar from early 90ies. These things are like rugged and can stand a heavy tug like your´s. Plus the next owner has so much options to improve the sidecar if he wants to (hydraulic disc brakes, smaller wheels, what soever). If he doesn´t want to it´s still a rugged car for very reasonable price. I do like to build good-value-rigs by using these sidecars and my customers love them.
You mentioned the modified frame in your other thread where you told us how you built the rig. So for me all is transparent for a possible buyer.
Good luck with selling the rig and a happy New Year!
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mayrel47
Posted 12/29/2016 8:55 AM (#91869 - in reply to #91868)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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Thank you Claus for your comment. I got a lot of help determining how to make this rig go together from two experienced sidecar installers/fabricators. I obtained the parts from a reputable source who deals in fabrication specifically for sidecars. I wanted the mounts to be as close to 90 degrees as possible for structural integrity. This required extending the sidecar frame for the front mounts. The frame extension is fabricated from 2x2 square tubing with 1 1/2" cross/pinch tubes which receive the 24" long slider/clevis tubes. Essentially this makes the sidecar mounts relatively adjustable for my rig or any future rig if I were to sell the sidecar separately. I have no idea what year this sidecar is, but I can promise it's solid and not damaged. I had a 2009 Ural-T and it's exactly the same sidecar design, same seat, same windscreen, same spare mount and same 19" wheels/tires. I realize this isn't a show rig, but it's stout and tracks correctly.
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Hack'n
Posted 12/29/2016 1:26 PM (#91875 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar



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With no mention of sidecar modifications using square tubing and the "Original white running light" mentioned it is easy to mistake a well modified URAL, itself a BMW clone" for another manufacturers product.

Mea Culpa, no malice intended.
Many sellers do not know the origin of their product. Attached are pix of unaltered early chassis for comparison.

I'm glad you have clarified it.

Lonnie Cook
NWSC, Ret'd.

"EXPERT" (from EX "a has been" and Spurt," a drip under pressure".

Have a good sale,

LoCo

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mayrel47
Posted 12/29/2016 2:39 PM (#91877 - in reply to #91875)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar


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Lonnie,
Thanks for the kind response. The photos you sent look exactly like my sidecar with the exception of the lights. I cut the two bottom mounts off the frame to replace them with the 2x2 frame extension and rear matching mount. I probably added about 25 pounds to the weight of the sidecar. It came out well, very strong and it handles decently. It handles good now, but the rear suspension on the bike could be stiffened up, primarily the rear spring. I'm sure progressive or another producer offers a stronger spring.
I appreciate your information very much.
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mtgent
Posted 4/1/2017 3:27 PM (#92984 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: RE: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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Is your rig still available? If so, how many miles are on the bike. I'm assuming it's in Palatka by now; I live in SWFL, but wouldn't mind driving up to take a look. Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your response,
Teri Gentile
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mayrel47
Posted 4/1/2017 4:53 PM (#92986 - in reply to #92984)
Subject: RE: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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Hello Terri,
Yes, it's still available. We trailered it to Palatka from Navarre and put it in storage. We're in the process of getting settled into our new how, so no time to ride. I have a battery tender on the bike to keep the battery up and a full tank of non-ethonal fuel. The bike has just over 11,000 miles. I'm not sure how many miles the sidecar has on it due to it's age. However, as you can see from the photos, the rig is in very good condition,new tires all around plus a spare. I also had the carbs rebuilt and an oil filter relocation kit installed to include all fluids replaced not 500 miles ago. I just completed putting this rig together a few months ago but didn't have time to put many miles on it. You are welcome to come view the rig. Just call me 256-516-2135. I have a flip phone so can't text. You can also email me merrelljr47@gmail.com. Let me know when you're coming to take a look and I'll pull her out and give her a bath; it rained on us coming over so she's a bit dirty. I lowered the price to $6000 for a quick sale; this price is firm. Now that we're here I'm not in any hurry to sell it. Thanks for your interest. Blessings John
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mtgent
Posted 4/2/2017 12:39 PM (#92995 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: RE: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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Hi again (tried to contact you yesterday)! Seeing as you seem to have relisted the bike, I'm assuming it's still available. I'm also assuming the rig is Palatka (sp?). I live in SWFL and wouldn't mind taking a trip to your neck of the woods to check out your rig. I'm disabled and have been riding rigs "forever"; sold my last one last year, thinking my riding days were over, but guess I was wrong

Also, I'd like to know how many miles are on the bike?

Please respond.

Thanks in advance,
Teri Gentile
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mtgent
Posted 4/2/2017 12:48 PM (#92996 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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Oops, my bad; didn't see your response before I reposted my question. Thanks for the info; but because you say you're "firm" on the price, I'll have to pass. Best of luck with your sale.

Teri Gentile
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mayrel47
Posted 4/2/2017 2:00 PM (#92999 - in reply to #92996)
Subject: Re: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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Teri, I understand. Thanks for letting me know. John
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mayrel47
Posted 4/4/2017 10:34 AM (#93023 - in reply to #91849)
Subject: RE: 2007 Vstar 1100 Classic/Ural Sidecar $6000


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This sidecar rig is no longer for sale on this site.
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