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shabelj
Posted 3/27/2017 10:23 PM (#92892)
Subject: Hannigan 2+2



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i'm considering buying a Wing with a Hannigan 2+2 hack. I have had 3-sidecars previously, and Velorex, Urai, and a California. Can someone share how the rig handles with the hard top. Is the inside of the sidecar get hot for the rider? Do they make a soft top for the rig? Can it be ridden without the top? any other thoughts on the handling of the rig or other insight would also be appreciated.

Thanx for your input.
Jerry
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Sidewise
Posted 3/28/2017 11:37 AM (#92904 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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I don't think a roof on an outfit this large would make that much difference to handling. No two given sidecars will handle alike it will handle strangely like all sidecars. The inside gets hot for the passenger the rider stays cool in the breeze. There is an optional fan and also an ice filled cooler (AC not quite and melts quickly) available. The top is removable and is stored in a bag behind the seat. I imagine any boat canvas guy could make a soft top if one isn't available. Why not see the Hannigan website or contact them for info.
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draperg1
Posted 3/28/2017 2:43 PM (#92910 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: RE: Hannigan 2+2



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I have two hannigan chairs. The Astro sport was tight for the passenger so I made a custom hardtop and windshield with a sunroof that gave them more room. I also have a 2+2 that I have added side windows that zip down and or remove (build thread on advrider.com under hacks-Here I go again) I do not think the hardtop makes a difference in handling, however the 2+2 / K12LT is a larger and heaver rig and is nicer on long distance interstate travel. The R11 / astro sport has done well on the same roads but it is lighter and has less room. Both handle well but it is like the difference between a sedan and a big luxury car.



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draperg1
Posted 3/28/2017 2:49 PM (#92911 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: RE: Hannigan 2+2



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shabelj
Posted 3/28/2017 4:02 PM (#92915 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Thank you for the excellent input... I can clearly see where the 2+2 has more room than the astro. which is what i need. sometimes it will be 2 grandkids, than at other times it will be grandma and a grandkid. I have just about talked myself into getting this rig...it seems like a good set up.


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AJ1200
Posted 3/28/2017 4:11 PM (#92916 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Very nice looking rig.
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draperg1
Posted 3/28/2017 4:55 PM (#92917 - in reply to #92915)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Looks good to me, I'm sure you will enjoy it!
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wanley
Posted 3/29/2017 11:32 AM (#92943 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2


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Bill,
I have seen the mod on ADV, how was the airflow in summer before the mod?
I like the big Astro, I even drove from Miami to Daytona to try and see one in person, no luck, I saw several Hannigans including the GTL, not the Astro 2 +2.
I am hesitant to pull the trigger on one because of the heat here. I am afraid the passenger(s) will roast in traffic.
Anybody has one around south Florida that I can see in person?
Wanley
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OldSchool_IsCool
Posted 3/29/2017 12:39 PM (#92946 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Would something like this help keep your monkey happy? No, not getting personal here! :-D

http://www.polarproducts.com/polarshop/pc/-Active-Ice-Universal-Sys...

I'm tinkering with a DIY version with a larger "evaporator coil" in the form of a vest. It should work as a personal heater too, should your ventures take you North.

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draperg1
Posted 3/29/2017 8:16 PM (#92952 - in reply to #92943)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Actually I bought the big boy in October and just got it on the road several weeks ago but I can tell you my wife would not ride it in the summer without the window modification. Before the mod on the sport we got back from a weekend trip and she said no go. She likes to keep the top on as it keeps the sun off her face as she has had issues. With the open windows, the fresh air vent, and the blower fan it is like riding in a car without ac. Not ideal but when we travel in hot weather we leave early and try to stop for the day mid afternoon before the oppressive heat. The swamp coolers do not work very well in the south east with the high humidity. The nice thing is she rides most of the time without gear, other than a helmet and probably stays cooler than me. In cooler weather with an electric blanket and gear she is very comfy which extends our riding season. We do travel some long distances and she much prefers the rig over riding behind. After riding behind me for almost 30 years she switched to the rig 9 years ago and will not move back, but we still ride! She reads, listens to music and takes naps.
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wanley
Posted 3/31/2017 2:48 PM (#92973 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2


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When you say that your wife would not ride it in the summer without the window modification, is that with or without the top? How is the air flow with the regular windshield and the top off?
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draperg1
Posted 3/31/2017 8:29 PM (#92974 - in reply to #92973)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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She will not ride with top off due to skin cancers, however, unless you have side windows the only air you will get is the hot air off pavement through the vent or recirculated air from the dash blower. In our experience it is cooler with top on, have you ever been in an open convertible in the hot sun? BTW the window mod is easy!

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wanley
Posted 3/31/2017 9:45 PM (#92977 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2


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Thanks.
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taco
Posted 4/1/2017 8:10 AM (#92978 - in reply to #92977)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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When I was rebuilding my 2+2 I put a hood scoop on the front. It made a big difference, the air comes in the scoop and goes out the top.



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Sidewise
Posted 4/1/2017 8:19 AM (#92979 - in reply to #92978)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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taco - 4/1/2017 8:10 AM

When I was rebuilding my 2+2 I put a hood scoop on the front. It made a big difference, the air comes in the scoop and goes out the top.


Excellent idea!
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SwampFox
Posted 4/1/2017 8:48 AM (#92980 - in reply to #92943)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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wanley - 3/29/2017 11:32 AM
... I am hesitant to pull the trigger on one because of the heat here. I am afraid the passenger(s) will roast in traffic.
Anybody has one around south...


A passenger in most any sidecar will be hot when sitting still in the sun in the Southeast USA. A couple of things we've found that help are a sheepskin cover/pad on the seat and wearing a long sleeves "for shade" - such as a light weight mesh riding jacket or a light weight wicking "fishing shirt."

A local fellow with an Astro found that a couple of Pop Vents yielded a great improvement in ventilation when moving - as attested by his passengers, such as these: https://bikescreen.com/collections/accessories/products/pop-vents:


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draperg1
Posted 4/3/2017 4:02 PM (#93018 - in reply to #92978)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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What kind of damper do you use, is it water tight and cold air tight? I really like the looks of it, with a few more wheels could be an indy car! It could also be used to blow up a skirt!!!!
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draperg1
Posted 4/3/2017 4:07 PM (#93019 - in reply to #92980)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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You can still get the vetter pop vents online for just a few bucks. I used them in my r1100/astro sport rig. I made the windows much larger on the 2+2 and found we did not need them.
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taco
Posted 4/4/2017 4:25 PM (#93028 - in reply to #93018)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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I cut a 4 inch hole in the sidecar, placed a 4 inch PVC fitting cut down to the treads in the hole with epoxy. I then fiber glassed a hood scoop on. When the PVC plug is screwed in it is water and wind tight




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draperg1
Posted 4/4/2017 5:24 PM (#93029 - in reply to #93028)
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Great idea!
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OldSchool_IsCool
Posted 4/4/2017 5:27 PM (#93030 - in reply to #93029)
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Did you add a screen to the scoop? Wouldn't want the Mrs to be sharing the ride with any hitchhiking bees! :D
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taco
Posted 4/5/2017 6:52 AM (#93031 - in reply to #93030)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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Thought about it but never did. I may put a screen over the PVC back inside the scoop
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AJ1200
Posted 4/5/2017 8:05 AM (#93032 - in reply to #92892)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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I took your idea and added a front scoop to my rig as well. I didn't glass it to the body like yours and mine is smaller. like you a drilled a 3" hole in the body and bought a drain valve for an RV gray tank and bolted it to the inside of the car, this way the rider can just reach under the dash and pull the handle to open the vent, they can adjust the amount of air flow also. I did put a screen in the scoop to prevent the possible stinging visitor
My Wife loves it, she said it made a world of difference in air flow inside the car



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taco
Posted 4/5/2017 8:26 AM (#93033 - in reply to #93032)
Subject: Re: Hannigan 2+2



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If your going to the Sidecars in the Smokies I see you there. I live in Andrews NC so we don't stay at the Lodge, we travel back and forth each day.
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AJ1200
Posted 4/5/2017 9:18 AM (#93034 - in reply to #92892)
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we are going to be there, had a great time last year.
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