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tmille55
Posted 9/5/2017 10:04 AM (#94957)
Subject: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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New owner of a side car for my brand new Harley. The side car is used, and I have noticed the tire on the inside has cracks....should I purchase a new one? Also what do you use..(tar? ) on the bottom of your side car....Also is there a seat belt law for a side car? MY daughter is 16 and she fits snugly in the sidecar. Also, the gentleman who I purchased it from said there are universal bolts for the hook up of the sidecar to the Harley. He said he purchased them from ebay for approx. 50.00 each..but I haven't seen them. Sorry all these questions....thrilled to be part of this family. Want to make sure this side car is attached firmly and safely for years of enjoyment.



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AJ1200
Posted 9/5/2017 11:51 AM (#94959 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Welcome aboard
there will be others along shortly to help with your tech questions but let me start by saying you DON'T want to use universal mounts.
there are no seat belt laws that I have heard of for sidecars
if the tire has cracks I would replace it, don't risk your safety or that of your daughter on an iffy tire

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OldSchool_IsCool
Posted 9/5/2017 12:10 PM (#94960 - in reply to #94959)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Welcome to the slightly off-center world of sidecars!

As Ace said, don't bother with the universal mounts. Universal mounts fit nothing in the universe! Harley experts will be along to advise you on where you can source proper mounts.

Cycle laws are state-by-state, but I know of nowhere that seat belts are mandated. Most all states (and insurance companies for that matter) treat a sidecar as an "Accessory" to your bike. So in the case of Michigan, as long as it has a permanent seat and a place for the passenger's feet, it's legal to put a passenger there. Helmet laws, or the lack there of, likely apply to the sidecar passenger too. Some form of restraint is strongly suggested, tho not required, if the car will be occupied by Fido.

If you can, take a sidecar driving class. Lots and lots of parking lot practice with ballast in the car needs to be factored in before hitting the road. Sidecar piloting is not hard, but it is very different from that of a two-wheeled bike. Trikes ad Quads are closer, but the asymmetric nature of a sidecar rig make it unique.

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jwshort
Posted 9/5/2017 3:07 PM (#94963 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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I am sorry to have to be the bearer of sad tidings but that sidecar is too light to mount on any Harley larger than a Sportster. I bought one of these sidecars and turned down at least 3 opportunities to sell it to Harley owners. I finally sold it to someone who was going to mount it on an old Honda 750. As for the mounts - both A.J. and Bruce are correct. You will need to buy or fabricate some sort of subframe to bolt (not clamp) to.
Your safest bet is to find another experienced sidecarist in your area and have them advise you on mounting and adjustment.
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jwshort
Posted 9/5/2017 3:20 PM (#94964 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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I am sorry to have to be the bearer of sad tidings but that sidecar is too light to mount on any Harley larger than a Sportster. I bought one of these sidecars and turned down at least 3 opportunities to sell it to Harley owners. I finally sold it to someone who was going to mount it on an old Honda 750. As for the mounts - both A.J. and Bruce are correct. You will need to buy or fabricate some sort of subframe to bolt (not clamp) to.
Your safest bet is to find another experienced sidecarist in your area and have them advise you on mounting and adjustment. Having said all these discouraging things - welcome to the Forum. We are here to help.
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tmille55
Posted 9/5/2017 4:34 PM (#94966 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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The bike I purchased is a Harley Sportster 1200... so its not sad tidings for me.... But I will find someone to advise me on the mounting....I would just feel more safer if I had more underneath holding it up.. MY daughters safety means more to me than anything in the world...and your helpful suggestions make me feel so thankful to have friends in this group!! thank you so much!


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jaydmc
Posted 9/5/2017 4:45 PM (#94967 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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We offer proper bike specific mounts for your bike. You can get an idea of what they are all about at this link http://www.dmcsidecars.com/the-result-of-improper-sidecar-mounting-...
When ever you add a sidecar to any motorcycle you end up with heavy steering. If you want lighter steering on the Sportster we offer triple tree's that change the angle of the forks which makes for lighter steering. $550
If you have any specific questions feel free to phone or email.
Your windshield is a bit home made. If you want one made for this sidecar you should be able to get it at www.bikescreen.com
Your sidecar is a Spirit of America Eagle.

Jay G
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bentleyssq
Posted 9/5/2017 4:50 PM (#94968 - in reply to #94967)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Welcome from south Florida . New owner also here. Can't advise on the mounting but as for the tire , I mounted anew one on mine because I could not find a date code on the old one. It looked OK but as you state Safety is everything and I take the Grandkids out. Sidecar tire price is cheap enough for Peace of mind Safety concerns.
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cycleman
Posted 9/6/2017 7:25 PM (#94989 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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Welcome to the sidecar world, from Canada. You will want to check out a creditable dealer or sidecar specialist that will mount your sidecar to your bike. Universal mounts are of little value. Not sure what car you have from the pictures, but post a name/model and that will help. You will want to find a subframe and mounts for your bike that the sidecar attaches to. You should try and find a fellow sidecar rider in your area for some advise, although always use your own judgement. More to driving a sidecar than just hooking a car to a bike. Go slow and you will get it sorted out. Best of Luck.
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condorsvcs
Posted 9/6/2017 7:56 PM (#94992 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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I see DMC has one of his free ads in the forum. I am sure the info is helpful DMC should do the right thing by the organization and buy an ad in the appropriate space. ( The Sidecarist ? )
The revenue will help the group maintain the forum and other features.
Condorsvcs
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taco
Posted 9/6/2017 8:04 PM (#94993 - in reply to #94992)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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You may want to talk with someone from Blue Moon Cycle in Norcross Ga. They mite be able to help you with your mounting. I bought all my mounts from DMC, there very strong.

Edited by taco 9/6/2017 8:07 PM
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jaydmc
Posted 9/7/2017 10:19 AM (#94994 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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As the owner of DMC, I find this offensive. I have purchased space in the past, in fact if it was not for me pushing the original company that owned www.sidecar.com to sell it, the USCA would not have it. I also was for several years the only advertiser on this site and would have renewed if the USCA would have simply sent me an invoice to pass on to my office manager and up dated our address when we moved. I asked for several years for this to happen before it finally did. I have donated money to the USCA when funds were tight. I have also served on the board of the USA as well as hosted a national rally. I was the assistant instructor for the very first S/tep instructor certification class where I was certified as an instructor, prior to this I had helped David Hough teach the class while the course was being formulated. I ran a sidecar event for 9 years that at one point had over 200 sidecars in attendance. I give out a lot of free help. Condorsvcs, what have you done for the club and the sport?
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taco
Posted 9/7/2017 10:58 AM (#94996 - in reply to #94994)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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I for one really appreciate your support for this club and all the information you contribute to it's members.
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chromepony
Posted 9/7/2017 12:52 PM (#94997 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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I for "two" also appreciate all the input you post on this forum.
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OldSchool_IsCool
Posted 9/7/2017 3:09 PM (#94999 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Without question, Jay is an asset to this site and to the USCA as a whole.

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condorsvcs
Posted 9/7/2017 7:15 PM (#95002 - in reply to #94999)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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I didn't say you were not knowledgeable or helpful. I said you were taking advantage of the groups generosity
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Al Olme
Posted 9/7/2017 10:38 PM (#95005 - in reply to #95002)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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This thread has been hijacked. Lets get back to answering the original poster's question.
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bigjames
Posted 9/7/2017 11:41 PM (#95007 - in reply to #94966)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Hi, I am among other things the Pres of the Ga Sidecar Club. We have members who have mounted sidecar to about anything, Sportsters are easy, so much frame. So as not to step on the USCA's turf to harshly, please go to our web page http://www.georgiasidcarclub.com or join our Facebook group and get connected with some locals who can help. Bluemoon Cycle in Norcross is also very well versed in sidecars and may have everything you need there, not cheap, but probably has what you need. Bluemoon is also a Hannigan and Ural dealer. The owner also used to race (may still) antique BMW sidecars.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sidecar-Installation-Universal-Clamp-Cozy-K...

That is a link to the clamp you need, or something like it. DMC, Hannigan and Motorvation sidecars all have better ones for about the same money. You need 3, probably 4.

Seat belts in a sidecar, that's a good one. In my Watsonian, since it is enclosed, I have a seat belt. In my Urals, since they are kinda smallish and wide open, I do not have seat belt. In that configuration I feel it is better to not be trapped if it flips and because of the size, one is better off having the ability to bail. IMHO only. Your's looks smaller than a Ural hack... Georgia has no seat belt law for sidecars. Helmets are required, period. Sidecars are under the exact same rules as motorcycles in Georgia, you can use the HOV lanes freely, the north Atlanta Lexis lanes freely (Peach Pass Still Required) and get to pay to ride (Peach Pass) in the Express Lexus Lanes south of town...

Hope that helps.


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tmille55
Posted 9/8/2017 7:51 AM (#95008 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Thank you all for your replies....You all...and I stress everyone of you are very helpful...
If I may tell you a little story....
I have always wanted to be a Harley chick since I was little....I was born with a deformed leg, and have had a prosthesis since I was 4 yrs old....my first manual bike was a three wheel, but I had the artificial leg sitting on top of the fender of the front wheel..lmao..... I was thrilled when I found out Harley has it to where the clutch can be made to where it can be automatic. SO I went into Harley dealership a month ago...told them I would love to purchase a Harley with a trike kit, and the klutch automatic.....the salesman told me how much it would cost me, and said lets do it...I assumed..(never assume) that it was all included in my payment...NOPE......I was approved for a Harley with no accomodations....The trike kit was like 5000, and the automatic shift was 2000...so here I have a brand new bike 2017 which I cannot drive.
Someone suggested to buy a side car...and that would be my extra wheel, and with my daughter who loves to ride, it would help out (when not riding I will be using weights to keep it down......SO I was fortunate to find this sidecar for sale, and want to make sure it can be securely fastened on my bike and the automatic klutch put on, and learn how to 1....be able to enjoy my bike on the road, and 2...enjoy it with my daughter....
Let me tell you, when I found out what I ONLY purchased and not being able to drive it yet....I was frustrated, but thought...its only a short road block........but someone told me about sidecars..and this wonderful site.....and I read how you all were friendly, and how much joy one can get taking someone along on the bike without feeling uncomfortable...and for that I thank you...
Again thank you for all your suggestions!!
Sincerely
Tina Miller (new Harley chick) w/sidecar and Mary K!!!
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Al Olme
Posted 9/8/2017 11:19 AM (#95009 - in reply to #95007)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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James,

You are never "stepping on the USCA's toes" if you are trying to help a new sidecarist. That said, I don't agree on your choice of mounting but that's a different matter. I know the "universal" clamps will work, I just don't believe that they are a good idea.

We welcome any input that will help bring a new sidecarist to the sport. Bob's BMW is a very good source for sidecar mounting but as you said, maybe not the cheapest.

You guys in Georgia stay safe from Irma.
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J.R.
Posted 9/8/2017 3:29 PM (#95011 - in reply to #95009)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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Lee. You should contact this lady. He piloted a sporster for a long time. Should be able to answer a lot of her questions.
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bigjames
Posted 9/8/2017 5:38 PM (#95012 - in reply to #95009)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia



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Thanks Al!

How could I forget about Bob? Geez, he (and a host of others) only rescued me from a blown up final drive at an RA rally a decade or 2 ago...there was a hurricane with that one come to think of it. Then again, it was an RA rally, been hurricanes attending several of those over the years...

Oh, the mount in the pic is horrible, it was the only one on eBay at the moment. Nasty, example only... Sorry about that. That's why I pointed directly to the 3 vendors. Universal is in the eyes of the beholder, I guess. One size fits none, is generally what that means. So some creativity and fabrication is always involved. Mounting a sidecar is an art, not a science, even though you need a little of each to do it right. 3 of mine are OEM rigs these days. Then there is my old HD/Watsonian...

Tina, we sidecar folks are a chatty group. Just wait until you go to a sidecar function. Get in touch with the state sidecar club or any of the folks you've been pointed too. You'll be riding in no time. Well some time after Irma goes away... I'll bug you about the Ride For Kids later - they love sidears....
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jwshort
Posted 9/8/2017 6:37 PM (#95013 - in reply to #94957)
Subject: Re: Greetings from Atlanta, Georgia


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Hi Tina:
Your new Florida State Rep is:
Richard Cravener
241 Balboa Dr.
Kissimmee, FL 34758-3002
407-353-9221

He volunteered during the Corning rally and sounds like he would like to be useful.
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