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Joyce
Posted 2/17/2006 9:47 PM (#13593)
Subject: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 3023
Location: St. Joseph,MO
I received the following message from a member and wanted to pass it along to everyone.

“After looking at the newly announced National Rally at Beaver Lake in Arkansas, wanted to pass along some information I have recently found. Arkansas has a minimum age requirement for motorcycle passengers, they must be eight (8) years old, except for parades. Arkansas defines a single motorcycle, motorcycle with sidecar, and motorcycle trike as the same, so no getting around calling it a three wheeled vehicle.
Just wanted other operators who have small children to be made aware”

Felicia Landes, co owner of Wagner's Cycle Shop did some checking with the AR DMV and State Police. She said,” I also asked the State Police about someone traveling from another state to the rally with a child in the car. He said it would be up to the policeman that stopped them and if sited, the prosecuting atty.

You can check this and other laws from the AMA site. Better to be prepared and ride safely

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/laws.asp
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pierobassi
Posted 2/18/2006 9:26 AM (#13604 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Joyce, thank you again for the heads up.

I personally think no Arkansas' police officer will ever stop a responsible riding sidecarist traveling with family (including an under age child) to a national rally. Especially if that family is not a full time resident of the State of Arkansas. The vast majority of police officers are common sense people. They would look the other way unless the pilot is doing something stupid.

For the future...let's quit looking for potential troubles by digging into the state laws of this great country. Should it be our responsibility to tell the Governor of California he shouldn't ride his sidecar to our national rally because his driver license does not have a motorcycle endorsement?

By the way, I hope my neighbor allows me to take her 7 year old son to our national rally. The boy seems to be extremely excited to the idea and so..am I!!

Piero Bassi
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Hack'n
Posted 2/18/2006 2:38 PM (#13610 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 4833
Location: Boise, Idaho
I am of the opinion that Mr. Bassi's comments may seem a bit optimistic.
Not all police view motorcyclists in a favorable manner, whether they be sidecarists or not. Many out of state cyclists are viewed as a source of revenue in many locales. Been there, been stopped, been checked out thoroughly. (Been cited in the past too.)
If you wish to flaunt the local laws, be prepared to pay the local price.

Just in case,

Lonnie
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preacher
Posted 2/18/2006 6:08 PM (#13614 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws


Posts: 65
Location: Jonesboro, Arkansas
Thank-you for that very usefull information. I have recently attached a side car and will be asked to give rides i am sure. newbie in Jonesboro,AR.
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pierobassi
Posted 2/19/2006 8:13 AM (#13623 - in reply to #13610)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Lonnie,

You are absolutely correct and I appreciate your suggestions. I often tell myself to control my emotions but I am not always successful at that.

Hope to see you on the road,

Piero
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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tfhansen
Posted 2/19/2006 10:48 AM (#13632 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 555
Location: Carlsbad, NM
Excerpts from my earlier post on another forum, dealing with the same subject.

".............think we should post it. Not to scare members away, but to keep them informed. There are a few, no doubt, that will bring children under the age of 8.

I think there will be very few though. Most people that travel with a child that age will also have Momma (or Dad) and maybe some other small ones in tow. That being the case, it is most likely that they will travel by car, pickup or motor home towing their sidecar.

It really is not our responsibility to check out (and publish) the laws in the contiguous 48. We are planning the rally and the individuals that come must find a way to cope with the various laws of the states they will travel through. I take it as my personal responsibility when traveling and I would guess most others do too.

I'd also guess that most sidecarists who have young children will decide for themselves whether they want to push their luck or not. ........."

Another thought. We cannot take it upon ourselves to re-write the laws in every state our member may travel through. We just have to deal with them. We are going to have a good rally in a good location. It is my hope that everyone who comes will have a good time. It has been posted and we need to keep on making plans for a great rally.



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peasandcorn
Posted 4/21/2006 10:47 PM (#15404 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 110
Location: Bisbee,AZ.
it's easier to beg for forgivness than to ask for permission..........see you at the ralley

mp
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Hack'n
Posted 4/22/2006 1:30 PM (#15420 - in reply to #13593)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 4833
Location: Boise, Idaho
From post #13593: "Felicia Landes, co owner of Wagner's Cycle Shop did some checking with the AR DMV and State Police. She said,” I also asked the State Police about someone traveling from another state to the rally with a child in the car. He said it would be up to the policeman that stopped them and if sited, the prosecuting atty."

That sounds pretty subjective and arbitrary to me.
So who is stopping you? One who's motto is "To Serve and Protect" or the Revenuer who's motto is: "To Control and Imtimidate". I've seen both. Got a warning from one and a citation from the other.
To be on the safe side, bring Cash or find out if they take Plastic if you decide to flaunt the local laws.

Lonnie
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Tomcat101147
Posted 8/7/2007 5:19 PM (#28254 - in reply to #13604)
Subject: RE: Arkansas Motorcycle Laws



Posts: 139
Location: Dallas Texas
Originally written by pierobassi on 2/18/2006 8:26 AM
I personally think no Arkansas' police officer will ever stop a responsible riding sidecarist traveling with family (including an under age child) to a national rally.

For the future...let's quit looking for potential troubles by digging into the state laws of this great country. Should it be our responsibility to tell the Governor of California he shouldn't ride his sidecar to our national rally because his driver license does not have a motorcycle endorsement?


In response, I, personally, think that you are overly optimistic and possibly a bit naive. The chances of being stopped by an officer of the law are often determined by, among other things, whether or not he's having a bad day, how he feels about motorcycles and if he thinks you're a tourist. There's so many reasons, both legal or prejudicial, that can be used for stopping a motorcyclist that I won't even begin to list them.

We all have our own "war stories" but being stopped and having a shotgun pointed at you on the very unlikely chance that you committed a crime 5 minutes previously and 40 miles away can be a very sobering experience.

Yes, it "is" our duty as motorcyclists to keep track of the laws affecting our enjoyment and pursuance of our love for motorcycles. There are still states with laws so poorly written and ambiguous that they can be used to harass and detain motorcyclists according to the whims of the officer on the scene. Some states levy huge fines to unaware, out of state riders based on the idea that the recipient will not return to pay the fine but instead will send the amount of the fine by mail or other means. There are a number of states that have unconstitutional helmet laws that are challengeable but which have simply not been challenged yet.

The point is not that motorcyclists should wear helmets. It's more to say that laws should be constitutionally written, free from ambiguity, and evenly applied to all. It devolves upon us to see that this is so.

There was a law in Louisiana (now revised) that required a DOT approved helmet. There is not now and has never been a "DOT" approved helmet. The DOT does not do helmet testing.

Some states require nearly full coverage gear, some require nothing. Some states' helmet laws depend upon the level of insurance carried as part of the determination. Even a cursory look into the varying laws will reveal inconsistencies and unconstitutionalities in laws regarding motorcyclists.

In the past, seat belt laws have been proposed for motorcycles although I know of none currently existing.

I'll stop now but "YES" it is our duty and obligation to monitor and act on legislation regarding motorcycling related laws and issues. If we, as riders, do not voice our concerns then no-one else will speak for us either.
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