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gnm109
Posted 7/19/2009 10:17 AM (#45251 - in reply to #39314)
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It's been hotter than Hades here in Sacramento County, too. I like to work in the barn with my machines so I go out there starting at 7:00 a.m. most days and I have to knock off by Noon. Being retired now, I get to set my own hours. LOL.

What in the world will we do when Wing Nut's sidecar is finished and the last installment of this thread is done.....Wow, I hate to even think about it! LOL.

Maybe we can talk him into adding a car alternator to his 4 cylinder Gold Wing per my earlier suggestion. That should be good for another few pages......Hmmmm, what say you Mr. WN?



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Shadow1100T
Posted 7/19/2009 10:42 AM (#45253 - in reply to #39314)
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Maybe we can talk him into adding a car alternator to his 4 cylinder Gold Wing
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I've been thinking about how one could add a small aluanator that can be driven by forward motion reather than the engine to supplement or be the primary power for my set up, my Honda doesn't put out a lot of amp's so when running my heated gloves and vest along with everything else it's useing just about all the amp's, I was thinking about one of the single wire Delco's or Nissan's but so far don't have any frim ideas on how to drive it.
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Hank41
Posted 7/19/2009 10:44 AM (#45254 - in reply to #39314)
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as i remarked once before wes shoulkd be drawing up plans for the towing hitch & the camper.
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Mark in Idaho
Posted 7/19/2009 11:17 AM (#45256 - in reply to #39314)
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I wouldn't worry about Wes ever finishing his rig. He hasn't got it on the road yet. There will be at least a year working out the bugs. Of course with everyone feeding him new ideas this could be the longest thread in sidecar history. I'd like to see a pintle mount for a black powder cannon on the sidecar. That ought to take another week or so.
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Wngnut
Posted 7/19/2009 12:15 PM (#45257 - in reply to #39314)
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You guys crack me upPhotobucket

I got a little sidetracked today. A buddy mentioned that he wanted to polish the timing covers on my bike. He said that if I pulled them he would polish them up. Sounded like a Helluva deal to me) So ...

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I used some Aircraft stripper to remove the rest of the protective coating that has wore off.

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This stuff is Awesome!!! Just spray on and....

Wash off)

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Oh, A friend was cleaning up his dads place and he had a Extra GEO. I mentioned that I'd like the Alt before the Junkers got it. He brought this to my shop a few days ago)

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It will be winter project though. I want to get this darn thing on the roadPhotobucket

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Wngnut
Posted 7/19/2009 12:59 PM (#45258 - in reply to #45257)
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Almost forgot. I have the seats back from the upholsterer. They turned out pretty good.

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Reardan Tom
Posted 7/19/2009 2:24 PM (#45265 - in reply to #45251)
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Originally written by gnm109 on 7/19/2009 9:17 AM


What in the world will be do when Wing Nut's sidecar is finished and the last installment of this thread is done.....Wow, I hate to even think about it! LOL.



Wes finishing his project will be like Ara and Spirit readhing the end of their journey! There are lots of us here that read both threads with great interest but don't add to the conversation... At least I assume there are lots, I certainly do...

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Mark in Idaho
Posted 7/19/2009 2:25 PM (#45266 - in reply to #39314)
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Very nice. Can't wait to see some skin on the car body. Sheet metal, plywood, or fabric & airplane dope?
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Wngnut
Posted 7/19/2009 3:25 PM (#45267 - in reply to #45266)
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I'll be ready to start skinning it this week. I'm going with Plywood like the floor is made of. It will be fiberglassed over. I have the central gussets nearly ready to glue in. I'll post some pictures later today.

I think the sides and top of the front will be fairly easy. I'm a little nervous about the top of the back end? Should go fine though.
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Shadow1100T
Posted 7/19/2009 5:44 PM (#45273 - in reply to #39314)
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I think the sides and top of the front will be fairly easy. I'm a little nervous about the top of the back end? Should go fine though.
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Might want to think about useing Luan Plywood, it thin (3/16th's)nicely; finished on one side with a std finish on the other and can be formed to rounded edges quite easily and with cuts in the right direction on the back side can be formed into tight radius's and slight compound curves.
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Wngnut
Posted 7/19/2009 6:13 PM (#45274 - in reply to #39314)
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I don't know what this stuff is called? It is 3/16" and water resistant and I'm allergic to it. It bends pretty good. I just have to be able to hold it bent while the glue dries. I'm going to try and stay away from nails or screws if I can.
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gnm109
Posted 7/19/2009 6:14 PM (#45275 - in reply to #45257)
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Oh, A friend was cleaning up his dads place and he had a Extra GEO. I mentioned that I'd like the Alt before the Junkers got it. He brought this to my shop a few days ago)

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It will be winter project though. I want to get this darn thing on the road.....


Heh heh. Looks like I got him with the alternator changeover article....Hee Hee..........I love making other people work! LOL.
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Wngnut
Posted 7/19/2009 7:33 PM (#45276 - in reply to #45275)
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I have the center braces made now. They are glued in place. Now I need to sand everything down and seal the wood.

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Back to work Photobucket Photobucket
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Shadow1100T
Posted 7/19/2009 7:46 PM (#45277 - in reply to #39314)
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If it's Luan and I suspect it is it will have a nice finish on one side, it's used on cabinets and other types of furniture and I beleive it's the only type of plywood that's that thin but I could be wrong.
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Wngnut
Posted 7/20/2009 10:04 PM (#45299 - in reply to #45277)
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Tonight, My lovely wife Photobucket came out to help me finish sanding the body's frame down. It took us about two hours. I was going to seal all the wood before I stuck on the plywood skin, but I think I'm going to wait till after I get the sides on. My thinking is the glue will soak into the pores of the wood better. Making a stronger bond? Sounds good anyway. A buddy is coming over tomorrow to help me cut out the sides and glue them on I'll try and take plenty of pictures.Photobucket
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gnm109
Posted 7/20/2009 11:42 PM (#45302 - in reply to #45299)
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Originally written by Wngnut on 7/20/2009 7:04 PM

Tonight, My lovely wife Photobucket came out to help me finish sanding the body's frame down. It took us about two hours. I was going to seal all the wood before I stuck on the plywood skin, but I think I'm going to wait till after I get the sides on. My thinking is the glue will soak into the pores of the wood better. Making a stronger bond? Sounds good anyway. A buddy is coming over tomorrow to help me cut out the sides and glue them on I'll try and take plenty of pictures.Photobucket


Have you considered using screws to hold the skin on along with the glue? That's the way the British built their monocoque fighters and bombers. A notable example was the twin engine Mosquito Fighter-Bomber. It had more than a hundred thousand brass screws holding the plywood skin to the wooden frame. It was one of the few all wood aircraft of WWII.

If you are going to glass it over anyway, the screws will give added strength since glue joints can let go under vibration and undue stress.

There I go again, making more work for you. LOL.

Edited by gnm109 7/20/2009 11:44 PM
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Wngnut
Posted 7/20/2009 11:53 PM (#45303 - in reply to #45302)
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I had thought of brass tacks. Even bought some. But I really don't want to do that much work. I'm going to glass all the inside seams . Where all the gussets meet the skin, all corners, everywhere that needs reinforced. It should make things really strong. I've thought about using a few tacks to hold things while the glue sets up. Then pull them. I think I've read they do some boats or airplanes maybe? To save on weight? I'm not worried about that, I just don't want to ruin anything. Glue and wood is kind of a permanent thing. It's hard to unglue wood.
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Shadow1100T
Posted 7/21/2009 1:19 AM (#45304 - in reply to #39314)
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if you use that Monkey Glue (Gorilla) it won't come apart, that is some mean stuff, if you do it will set a lot faster if you dampen the surfaces before applying the glue and don't use too much cause it will foam and the residue is hard to remove, really hard.
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gnm109
Posted 7/21/2009 10:23 AM (#45308 - in reply to #45303)
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Originally written by Wngnut on 7/20/2009 8:53 PM

I had thought of brass tacks. Even bought some. But I really don't want to do that much work. I'm going to glass all the inside seams . Where all the gussets meet the skin, all corners, everywhere that needs reinforced. It should make things really strong. I've thought about using a few tacks to hold things while the glue sets up. Then pull them. I think I've read they do some boats or airplanes maybe? To save on weight? I'm not worried about that, I just don't want to ruin anything. Glue and wood is kind of a permanent thing. It's hard to unglue wood.


Of course, the glue won't come loose. However, since you are using plywood, there is a possibility of delamination if the thing runs into something. I hope that never happens but the weight of a few screws would not be significant, especially given the fact that you haven't gone light on the frame at all.

I'm just sayin'.......


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Wngnut
Posted 7/21/2009 11:59 PM (#45325 - in reply to #45308)
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Just pictures tonight. I used the Monkey Glue.

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I can't believe how well everything fit!!! I'll start trimming it tomorrow.
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Shadow1100T
Posted 7/22/2009 2:34 AM (#45327 - in reply to #39314)
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That's looking really GOOD Wes, might want to put some wood on the internal braces in the front section so feet and other things don't get snagged and strengthen the first rib so a hand hold could be applied if nessessary,with the lid off it would be easy to do,,,just a thought.

Edited by Shadow1100T 7/22/2009 2:39 AM
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Mark in Idaho
Posted 7/22/2009 9:13 AM (#45331 - in reply to #45327)
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Very exciting progress Wes. You've got hundreds of people looking over your shoulder, waiting for the next step. No pressure.
I like your idea of glassing the gussets for strength, but that looks like a tedious and noxious job. Do most of the interior glassing before the lid goes on and save having to squeeze into such a small space.
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tomhack_1
Posted 7/23/2009 6:32 PM (#45352 - in reply to #39314)
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Here's a picture of my "Cobbercycle" also built out of plywood. The bottom and sides are 3/8 inch. Too thick. I started work on a differnt body a couple weeks ago out of 1/4 inch luan plywood so I could bend it more. I am trying to get it to look like an old wooden boat.
I let my daughter paint the C on the hood as she was a student at Concordia College and my bike is close to the school colors. I'm driving the Director of Alumni Relations in the homecoming parade last fall.
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Wngnut
Posted 7/24/2009 8:42 AM (#45361 - in reply to #39314)
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Nice car! Looks like she was having fun) Make sure you post some pictures of the construction. I'd love to see it.

thanks
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Wngnut
Posted 7/26/2009 12:25 AM (#45384 - in reply to #45361)
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I used a straight edge to mark my lines that I wanted to cut.

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I then used a small drill bit and drilled a hole about 1/4" above the line and connected the dots on the other side. This gave me a cut line.

After I cut off the excess, I just sanded down to the line with a belt sander. Here I have a little left.

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