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Joyce
Posted 11/8/2008 7:55 AM (#40030)
Subject: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 3024
Location: St. Joseph,MO
I had this email today from R&T Motorad. If you live in Ontario Tom would like to hear from you.
______________________________________________________________________

Hello everyone,
I am collecting names of people who oppose the Ontario Bill M117. Please pass this on to anyone who might help our cause. Remember snowmobiles and ATVs could be next on the list.

This amendment will include all motorcycles, sidecar bikes, trikes, Bombardier Spyders and any other vehicle that presently requires a class M license to operate. Highway means any assumed road in Ontario and "on" can mean on the back seat or on the seat in a sidecar. Do not be miss guided by terminology. Some riders I have spoke with already think they are not effected because of this wording. They will be affected !
This private members bill was introduced by MPP Ms. Dr. Helena Jaczek:

The bill amends the Highway Traffic Act to: prohibit driving or operating a motorcycle on a highway while a person under the age of 14 is a passenger on the motorcycle with a view to promoting safety on Ontario's roads and protecting youth from preventable injuries.


I am opposed to Bill M117 on the grounds that it prevents families from enjoying motorcycling together.
This bill does not recognize that motorcycling is an enjoyable pastime and an efficient means of transportation for many families.
This bill does not take into consideration that our children and grandchildren are with us spending quality time learning values that we as Canadians hold in high regard.
This bill does not acknowledge that motorcycling is a major factor to the health and well being of the families who are involved in it.
I ask that my elected MPPs oppose this bill on these grounds.

If you agree with the above statements in blue please fill in your information below and return to porkchopp@lks.net
This information will only be shared with the MPPs of your ridings.
You can find your MPPs name or riding at this link. They can be sorted by riding or alphabetically.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/members/members_current.do?locale=en

Name:

Postal code:

Phone number:

Email address:

MPP or riding:



I thank all of you for your help in this matter.



Harold Thomas O'Leary
Canadian Director
Sidecar-Industry Council

86 Thrasher Road
RR # 1 Plainfield
Ontario, Canada.
K0K 2V0



Phone: 613-477-1130
Fax: 613-477-2531
Email: porkchopp@lks.net

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sidecarLeo
Posted 11/15/2008 7:33 AM (#40136 - in reply to #40030)
Subject: RE: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 53
Holy smokes..! If that happened here, it would mean i could no-longer have any of the grandchildren ride.! Sounds like another attempt at reducing liberty. Well, i for one hope this one stays in that province! I think we should speak in hushed tone about this. ! ???
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crawf
Posted 4/10/2009 9:11 AM (#43224 - in reply to #40030)
Subject: RE: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 344
Location: smithville ontario canada
with the premature closure of provincial parliment in Jan/09,..all bills in process were swept off of the table, My local M.P. tells me that with the massive displeasure shown towards this bill,..it is likely dead in the water, and will not be re-read,..just a heads up to all that we need to keep an eye on Big Brother, or the right to ride will become criminal also,...the damn commie's ....crawf.
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david lloyd
Posted 2/13/2010 5:56 PM (#49262 - in reply to #43224)
Subject: RE: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 154
Location: Lachine, QC-CANADA, EH!

Is the bill dead?

 

crawf - 4/10/2009 10:11 AM with the premature closure of provincial parliment in Jan/09,..all bills in process were swept off of the table, My local M.P. tells me that with the massive displeasure shown towards this bill,..it is likely dead in the water, and will not be re-read,..just a heads up to all that we need to keep an eye on Big Brother, or the right to ride will become criminal also,...the damn commie's ....crawf.

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bubby-joe
Posted 2/19/2010 3:49 PM (#49382 - in reply to #49262)
Subject: RE: Ontario Bill M117


Posts: 6
Location: WEST COAST AND WAY UP NORTH
david lloyd - 2/13/2010 3:56 PM

Is the bill dead?

 



Even if it is some other MP could just reword it slightly and slip it back in the works and have it slip through and there goes another liberty we all take for granted. Time to get an MP that actually rides and enjoys it. And not just play lip service to hear there own voices.

Edited by bubby-joe 2/19/2010 3:49 PM
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crawf
Posted 7/26/2010 7:33 PM (#52737 - in reply to #49382)
Subject: RE: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 344
Location: smithville ontario canada
this bill is officially dead,
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SoyBoySigh
Posted 9/1/2010 2:48 AM (#53441 - in reply to #40030)
Subject: Re: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 1
Location: Southern Alberta, Canada
Well then, if it is truly dead, I guess you can ignore the info I sent off as requested.

Gotta watch this stuff though, Alberta has had many changes vis-a-vis probationary licensing, age requirements, etc since I took up riding back in the nineties. Here I had wanted to teach my step-daughter starting on her 14th, seems it will have to wait two years, and I'll have to buy her a new bike as she won't be able to even try out let alone learn on her honda c70 for another two years. All for an extra 20cc's, and the same power as a two-stroke 50 besides. Motorcycle legislation should be drafted by motorcyclists. It's not like the folks who drew up automobile legislation were non drivers. Well, maybe at first, in the horse and buggy days. But you get my point. -Sigh.
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SidecarMike
Posted 6/10/2011 8:08 PM (#58388 - in reply to #53441)
Subject: Re: Ontario Bill M117



Posts: 1710
Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin USA

SoyBoySigh - 9/1/2010 1:48 AM Well then, if it is truly dead, I guess you can ignore the info I sent off as requested. Gotta watch this stuff though, Alberta has had many changes vis-a-vis probationary licensing, age requirements, etc since I took up riding back in the nineties. Here I had wanted to teach my step-daughter starting on her 14th, seems it will have to wait two years, and I'll have to buy her a new bike as she won't be able to even try out let alone learn on her honda c70 for another two years. All for an extra 20cc's, and the same power as a two-stroke 50 besides. Motorcycle legislation should be drafted by motorcyclists. It's not like the folks who drew up automobile legislation were non drivers. Well, maybe at first, in the horse and buggy days. But you get my point. -Sigh.

 

When Wisconsin first required a motorcycle license, they had a series of licenses.  If I remember right, there were three different ones, three wheels only, under 149cc, and unlimited.  My brother in law had an old Jawa 125?  He managed to convince the examiner that it had been bored to 150 so he could get an unlimited license.

Maybe you can tell them it was "detuned" . 

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