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SidecarMike
Posted 1/21/2011 10:31 PM (#55701 - in reply to #55699)
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Hack'n - 1/21/2011 8:35 PM Here's a couple of early FSI taillight pix. The lenses used to be available at truck stops.

Thanks Lonnie.  I never was able to find replacements for Jennifer's lenses.  We finally enlarged the holes and used different lights all together. 

Anyone out there have a photo of a Formula 2SE or 3 with the short taillight?

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SidecarMike
Posted 2/20/2011 4:55 PM (#56269 - in reply to #55700)
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Slowly but surely, the marraige is taking shape

 

Of course, I'm about ready for a test drive, so we have a major winter event taking place outside.  Oh well, I'll just have to clear the driveway before we go. 

 

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Daryl Martel
Posted 2/20/2011 7:20 PM (#56273 - in reply to #55459)
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Nice. They really look made for each other (styling wise). What does a guy have to fabricate in the way of adaptor mounts to hang a sidecar on a GL1500? Am considering that upgrade myself (ahem - don't tell the wife!).
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SidecarMike
Posted 2/20/2011 7:34 PM (#56274 - in reply to #56273)
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With all the bodywork involved, it doesn't pay to reinvent the wheel.  Buy a mounting kit from someplace like Dauntless, designed to mate your sidecar.  It came with templates that made it easy.  I had to drill out the front passenger handhold, drill a 1 1/4" hole in the front lower panel, and cut an access in the lower cowl.  The front upper mount is just a clamp on the frame, but the other three are subframes.

 

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Daryl Martel
Posted 2/20/2011 7:53 PM (#56275 - in reply to #56274)
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Thnx Mike - I had Peter & Brock at Side Effects make me the adaptor brackets I needed for my GL1100. I've gotta do a little fitting and am going to get the rear bracket assembly professionally welded up and powder coated. I agree, why take a chance on something so critical. Am just curious to see the various engineering solutions - it's the aircraft mechanic in me :^)
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SidecarMike
Posted 2/20/2011 8:14 PM (#56276 - in reply to #55459)
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I'll be uploading a bunch of photos in a few days.  I also have factory mounting instructions for the mid 80's Yamaha Venture, the 1988 -2000 Honda Goldwing, and a 2002 and newer Harley Davidson FL's.  I'll try to upload them somewhere as well.
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billy_bob169
Posted 2/24/2011 4:42 PM (#56347 - in reply to #55459)
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That setup looks familiar! LOL. Going to have to save this thread for future reference

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SidecarMike
Posted 2/24/2011 5:44 PM (#56348 - in reply to #56347)
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billy_bob169 - 2/24/2011 3:42 PM That setup looks familiar! LOL. Going to have to save this thread for future reference

 

Welcome Billy Bob.  When you get tired of that thing, I'll make you the same offer I made it's previous owner.

If you come up with anything to add to this thread, by all means do so.  And if you know anyone interested in a nice 99 Guzzi, I still have it too.

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billy_bob169
Posted 2/25/2011 10:01 AM (#56351 - in reply to #55459)
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Will do man. So far, the things I have been researching are more goldwing related than sidecar related. tires, shocks, etc. I am missing the side zip out panels for my soft top though. I will see if I can find them, but highly doubt it. The other information is great though!! Anyone have a sevice manul for the car?
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SidecarMike
Posted 2/25/2011 10:51 AM (#56352 - in reply to #56351)
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I have all the original paperwork that came with mine when it was new.  No manual, but a bunch of copied pages.  I could also make some sidecurtain patterns for you.
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billy_bob169
Posted 2/25/2011 12:31 PM (#56354 - in reply to #55459)
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Thanks! For now, I am good with out the side curtains. But I might take you up on that at some point. If you ever scan the paperwork, I would be interested in that. No rush though
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WinginCamera
Posted 2/25/2011 3:24 PM (#56355 - in reply to #55459)
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For side curtains you might try a place that makes curtains & covers for boats & custom cars. I had a custom tounneau cover made for my Escort for when I didn't want to put on the convertible top.
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SidecarMike
Posted 2/25/2011 3:34 PM (#56357 - in reply to #56355)
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WinginCamera - 2/25/2011 2:24 PM For side curtains you might try a place that makes curtains & covers for boats & custom cars. I had a custom tounneau cover made for my Escort for when I didn't want to put on the convertible top.

 

Has anyone out there had one made for a Friendship 3?   My wife doesn't like riding under the convertible top, so I was thinking about something quick and easy to snap on and off.

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WinginCamera
Posted 2/25/2011 8:56 PM (#56358 - in reply to #56357)
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SidecarMike - 2/25/2011 3:34 PM

Has anyone out there had one made for a Friendship 3?   My wife doesn't like riding under the convertible top, so I was thinking about something quick and easy to snap on and off.



Like I said above, find a local shop that makes custom tounneau covers for pickups & convertibles. The shop that made mine used the existing snaps around the sides and back that the convertible top used, and added more snaps on the shelf behind the windshield. I asked them to tailer the cover to fit the contour of the cockpit which on my Champion Escort is slightly higher over the back seat cushion and the front windshield area. This way if the cover is fully snapped down water will not pool toward the front under the windshield.

We like it for being able to quickly cover the cockpit when stopped, keeping things out of sight, and the sun off of the seat (or rain if the top is not on. When traveling without a passenger I just snap it in place to hide what every is in the sidecar.
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SidecarMike
Posted 4/1/2011 8:56 PM (#57070 - in reply to #55459)
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We just got a little more information!

This is copied from a post by Fellow member Brockoli.

Rear is a 1988-ish Peugeot 205 GTi right rear tail light. The later Friendship 3 used the Acura integra light. The early production years from California Sidecars used the Peugeot lights until the molds were changed over to a readily available light in the north american market. Hope this helps

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newenglandjim
Posted 5/10/2011 2:01 AM (#57756 - in reply to #55700)
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Daryl Martel - 1/21/2011 9:51 PM

My Friendship II I just bought.
I just bought the same sidecar with the top but missing the pole for the top.
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Boatzo
Posted 5/13/2011 11:27 AM (#57809 - in reply to #55700)
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I'll try this again, I am new to this forum and not sure how to post a photo.

Daryl, yours looks just like the one I just bought. On ebay it was listed as a Friendship II, but now that I got it home and looking over it I am not sure. What is the difference between the CSC FI and FII?



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Hack'n
Posted 5/13/2011 12:18 PM (#57810 - in reply to #55459)
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The FS I had no cockpit opening for easy entry. One has to climb in over the top.
The FS II front upper body section lifts for passenger entry (hinged at the front body seam).
Your sidecar nose is intact and the opening is farther back. It appears to be a FS I that has been modified to open for easier entry.

Lonnie
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Boatzo
Posted 5/13/2011 12:34 PM (#57811 - in reply to #57810)
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Thanks for the info Lonnie. If it was modified, it was a very good job. Everything around the opening including the hydraulic lift looks like a factory job? The lift has lost its pizazz and I am using a stick to hold it open whilst working on it. Still gathering info on connecting it to the BMW and have been in touch with Jay at DMC.
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Daryl Martel
Posted 5/13/2011 12:37 PM (#57812 - in reply to #55459)
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Boatso & Lonnie - Hi, I'm on TDY down in Indianapolis at the moment. Yes, this sidecar you bought is virtually identicle to mine. Pretty sure it's a Friendship II. Lonnie, I think the full opening front opening upper body section was introduced with the SE model. Here's a link to their site: http://www.californiasidecar.com/sidecars_friendship.html My GL1100 is unfortunately still at the Honda dealer. Brought it in for a safety inspection, head gasket & timing belt replacement, and a few days ago on the day I was to pick it up, it debeloped a starter issue (starter spins but engine doesn't - stuck starter clutch) that'll keep it in the shop longer. Am dying to get the sidecar installed. Bought a 2nd bike to tide me over! Boatso, nice looking sidecar you got there, although personally I'd lose the parade float back end.
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davids
Posted 5/17/2011 6:48 PM (#57904 - in reply to #55459)
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Hi all, I've acquired an 82 GL1100 Friendship 3. Near as I can tell it does not have the longer sidecar frame add-on. (sidecar was purchased in92 and installed 3rd party) What if any are the ramifications of not having the longer frame? Thanks, Dave
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Hack'n
Posted 5/17/2011 8:27 PM (#57906 - in reply to #57904)
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The frame extension was for easier installation on long framed bikes. Especially the later full bodied GLs. The 1100s still had easy access to frame mounting points so the extension isn't needed.

Lonnie
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SidecarMike
Posted 5/17/2011 8:32 PM (#57907 - in reply to #57904)
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davids - 5/17/2011 5:48 PM Hi all, I've acquired an 82 GL1100 Friendship 3. Near as I can tell it does not have the longer sidecar frame add-on. (sidecar was purchased in92 and installed 3rd party) What if any are the ramifications of not having the longer frame? Thanks, Dave

Take a look at the difference in color on my frame. 

The unpainted part on top was added on to make the frame the same length as a Goldwing frame.  If yours is an original long frame, it would probably look like the painted part, only longer.  I just measured mine.  On the short frame, the distance between the lower tubes is 21 inches.  On the Goldwing frame it is 27 inches.

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Hack'n
Posted 5/17/2011 8:33 PM (#57908 - in reply to #57812)
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I've had the early FS I sidecars in the shop with their odd mounting system (see attached), but no early FS II that had this type of opening. Do you know what year the change was made?
Note the 5 lug wheel on this FS I oldie.

Lonnie

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OldSchool_IsCool
Posted 5/18/2011 8:37 AM (#57926 - in reply to #55459)
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I'm getting pretty close to mounting a sidecar to my GL1100. I've been looking over the frame to figure out where to install the shackels with clevis eye joints.

From what I can see, I need 4 mount points on the bike's right side:
- lower frame forward of the motor mount, rear of the exaust flanges
- on the 45* strut next to the rear air shock valve, hopefully below the valve close to the main frame member
- upper frame rail under the seat next to a cross member
- high up on the forward up-tube along the radiator

Do these mount points sound right to y'all?
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